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travelinhobo



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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Location: U.S.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:19 am    Post subject: Private ESL classes / Recommended schools Reply with quote

Hi- I've looked through the last 2 pages of posts, have attempted to use the search engine but it's not working, so I'll just post these questions (in reference to HCMC)...

1. Besides the chain schools which have been recommended to work at, would any of you recommend any other language schools? I have 10 years experience teaching (tho mostly privately), a TEFL cert, no degree. I'm never thrilled to work for a chain school.

2. Because most of my experience is private classes with adults, what's the prospect of finding some in HCMC? I've read that contacts and networking help, however the latter isn't really my forte. Is it best to start in schools and then build up private students? What about finding non-English speaking natives who want to improve their English (businessmen)? Not looking for English classes over a cup of tea with the wife.

3. Are there any Vietnamese websites, similar to craigslist, where I could either find ads or post them? Could be in Vietnamese or English, not important. What sites do the locals use?

Thanks for any info/opinions/comments/help. Smile
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Dekadan



Joined: 09 Dec 2011
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey travelinhobo,

Unfortunately, I don't really have the answers that you're looking for, but I'll chip in my two cents. I worked in HCMC for nearly 2 years, first for ILA, then for POLY (the only Vietnamese branch for the Korean school). I can't recommend any non-chain schools, but I did hear good things about ACET, which has mostly university-aged students. For most jobs, I heard that you needed to have a degree, but with your experience hopefully you can get around that.

I never took up any private lessons, but I often had people solicit me for them. I even had people calling me and no idea how they got my number. Breaking into the business market would be much more challenging, maybe someone else has an idea of how to do it. Perhaps spending time in the backpackers district (Pham Ngu Lao and Bui Vien are the notorious streets) will help you meet other teachers that can potentially help you. I know a lot of them frequent Le Pub, which is in an alley off Bui Vien.

Best of luck!
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sigmoid



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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3. Are there any Vietnamese websites, similar to craigslist, where I could either find ads or post them?


Not sure if you'll get much response but here it is:

http://vietnam.craigslist.org/

There aren't many good schools in HCMC. The competition for jobs at better schools like ACET is pretty intense.

The main private tuition market is for the children of Japanese and Korean ex-pats. Those are usually passed on via word of mouth.
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Oh My God



Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Private ESL classes / Recommended schools Reply with quote

travelinhobo wrote:

2. Because most of my experience is private classes with adults, what's the prospect of finding some in HCMC? I've read that contacts and networking help, however the latter isn't really my forte. Is it best to start in schools and then build up private students? What about finding non-English speaking natives who want to improve their English (businessmen)? Not looking for English classes over a cup of tea with the wife.

Thanks for any info/opinions/comments/help. Smile


Business cards, keep them simple and use larger print but be creative as this will bring your best response. Pass them out to your students, acquaintances, and contacts as you meet them. I've also found that I'll get offers from other schools because of former students and VN teachers.

The personable touch is the BEST way to get privates.
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Biaom



Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troi oi stated

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Business cards, keep them simple and use larger print but be creative as this will bring your best response. Pass them out to your students, acquaintances, and contacts as you meet them. I've also found that I'll get offers from other schools because of former students and VN teachers.

The personable touch is the BEST way to get privates.


I agree with the biz cards but you need to know the best places to hand them out. I suggest the korean and Jap Bio Oms in HCMC. I can also confirm that privates are available in these places and you will also receive the personable touch.

Merry Christmas

Bia Om
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snollygoster



Joined: 04 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:47 am    Post subject: Get privates Reply with quote

The personable touch is the BEST way to get privates.
I would change BEST to ONLY.
Re cards-I suggest your picture on them is a great move- Sounds egotistical, but in SE Asia where our names are strange and difficult to remember, its a very pro-active step.
I don't know the current market in Vietnam, but I was constantly knocking back privates when I lived in Vietnam- I can only guess there is still a strong demand.
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Mattingly



Joined: 03 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Travelinhobo,

Privates take time to get and yes, it's often word of mouth from existing students/parents that are happy.

Regardless, the work is not steady.

You can try privates on the side, but remember, it's like a tip. It's an extra icing on the cake that will be your job at a school.
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kurtz



Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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Location: Phaic Tan

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biaom wrote:
No disrespect travillinhobo but according to your posts you are an unqualified
backpacker who has been travelling around and teaching privates for ten years.

No worries about working for reputable chain schools in Vietnam, they would never interview you. May I suggest you try to work for a school at some point because if you dont you will always be the vagabond looking for its next meal.

Anyway, there are quite a few teachers teaching only privates in HCMC, most if not all are unqualified tramps who are always looking for a free meal, beer or a taste of the bud if they are lucky enough to forget about their pathetic life.

Advise is to give Vietnam a miss, the competition is here, qualified and experienced teachers, but you can join the crowd at margaritas who are more than happy to give you a tissue for a tear but forget about a warm shoulder to lay thy head. Twisted Evil


Now now General, that's not very nice.

"I'm never thrilled to work for a chain school" Chain schools are never thrilled to have someone without a degree working for them, well not those who offer a work visa at least.
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Biaom



Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My students sometimes call me the general. Its probably due to being too forward and thinking about reality. In fact, one needs to be a general in Vietnam and focus on military strategy. Living in HCMC is like a war,
one must destroy the virus but inoculate thyself from the invading army.

I suspect hobo would prefer reality and the truth rather than a distortion or a lie. However, hobo hope to see you in HCMC because you are not part of the invading army that we need to worry about.

See you at Margaritas, bring your own tissues. Wink
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Biaom



Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurtz

Should we call you Colonel Walter E. Kurtz.

I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream; that's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor... and surviving.

What do you call it when the teachers accuse the teacher? A lie. A lie and we have to be merciful.


General Biaom
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Oh My God



Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biaom wrote:
Kurtz

Should we call you Colonel Walter E. Kurtz.

I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream; that's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor... and surviving.

What do you call it when the teachers accuse the teacher? A lie. A lie and we have to be merciful.


General Biaom


Your posts DO have a Generalgiap-type ring to them, IMHO
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