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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do an Internet search on expat women life saudi and you'll find lots of info.
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BretHarte



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ellethom wrote:
This site is a great resource, but it is often hard to weed through the arrogant and conceited BS. Also there are a lot of people on this board who are pretty knowledgeable about what is the norm over there, just ignore the smug comments.


Since both of these might be applied to some of my comments, I wouldn't ignore smugness. It's a country that can be openly hostile to Westerners where you can't do a midnight run.

Odds are you won't get in trouble but you'll hear stories of busses/people having rocks thrown at them. In Korea, odds are you won't be picked up at the airport and taken straight to class, but you'll meet people who did.

I'm assuming you're a Westerner. If you're Indian English teacher, things can and do get much much worse.
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justcolleen



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saudis complain of huge losses from escaped workers:

http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article549098.ece

"escaped workers"

Mull that over and decide if the money is worth it.
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scjw



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article549098.ece
Saudis complain of huge losses from escaped workers

Last paragraph from article:

"Studies released by Asharqia Chamber show that most escaped workers are from East Asia, constituting some 62.2 percent. It also shows that Arab escaped workers are estimated at 35 percent, most of them Egyptians. The third highest amount of escaped workers is from Bangladesh, an estimated 27.7 percent. These nationalities are followed by Pakistanis with 14.4 percent, Indians constituting 12.1 percent, Filipinos with 2.1 percent, and Sri Lankans with 1.6 percent."

KSA got a problem with modern day slavery which leads to human trafficking.
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BretHarte



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first paragraph is funny enough, "Despite the difficulties that Saudi citizens and companies face to import workers in addition to the money they pay for visas � SR7,000 or more per worker � Saudi Arabia does not have a strict law to protect the rights of the citizen or company when the worker escapes".

It makes my heart weep because Saudi doesn't have strict enough laws to prevent workers from escaping.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear BretHarte,

Would you expect the Kingdom of Humanity to have strict laws? Pshaw.

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Regards,
John
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scjw wrote:
KSA got a problem with modern day slavery which leads to human trafficking.

Not surprising since KSA officially abolished slavery just 50 years ago (1962). Apparently, some of these employers didn't get the memo...
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scjw



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoyed reading this article about life in KSA from a Saudi's woman perspective.

Foreign Policy online: "What Do Saudi Women Want?" December 2011
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/11/28/what_do_saudi_women_want
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pink_islands



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:31 pm    Post subject: Newbie here about the women recruitment -4 sirius black Reply with quote

sirius black wrote:
Really?! There is a woman I kniow who worked in the middle east and has been recruiting other women to come. There seems to be some sort of shortage and it seems its easier to get a job if you're a woman.
Anyway, two people that she has recruited from Korea wouldn't fit the qualifications that has been mentioned on this thread and they got jobs. They had been in Korea a couple years, had a TEFL but non English majors. Decent pay as well (4k/month).

OP, I'd try for it. It won't hurt to try and I'm using the job offers to people I know as a reason.

Socially, you already know that what its gonna be like. As for the online TEFL, I did mine in class and a friend did his online. His online cert didn't say online and its been accepted at every school he's applied to. From what I understand from the company he went through they had both online and classroom instruction but their cert didn't distinguish it. Not saying to do that but if your cert is unclear as to it being online or not, the country may not as well.


First time posting - newbie here I have been lurking around reading your posts, I know you are unable to pm me since I do not have enough posts is there some way I can get the info about the female recruiter?
Thank you Very Happy
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GoldnSilver



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scjw, why not apply to a women's college with your masters degree???
There is a huge women's college here looking for women in various fields. They require PHD or atleast a masters. It's called PNU, I think it stands for Princess Noura Uni. You can look into it if you're so interested in teaching in Saudi.
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cassava



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scjw;

The government of the United States has been warning other countries of the possibility of a devastating coronal mass ejection (cme) during the height of the next solar cycle. Countries are being urged to develop Faraday cages in order to try to protect their electrical grid.

Physicists like Michio Kaku have claimed that this projected event would be similar to "a Katrina from the skies".

The last, massive cme took place in 1859. It was called the Carrington Event, and was named after the scientist who first observed it. This cme was a world-wide event, which wiped out the newly-installed telegraph system in the USA, and did similar damage in those countries which utilized electricity at the time.

Although the damage from that event was fairly wide-ranging. The cme that the Americans are expecting during the next solar cycle would be catastrophic.

Some biophysicists have pointed to the nature of this disaster and its ripple effects--the collapse of technology, banking systems, communication systems, transportation systems, etc.

If you end up in Saudi Arabia, you should quickly set about collecting and storing as much potable water and mres as possible. In the absence of mres, you should obtain other non-perishable food. You should also form an alliance with those of your colleagues who are interested in developing survival plans and techniques.

This action may become necessary because some geophysicists have pointed out that this cme blast from our Sun may simply be the first of a series of rolling geological disasters. Many astrophysicists and geophysicists are worried by the fact that the heliosphere (the magnet field around the Sun) seems to have vanished, while the magnetosphere
the magnetic field around planet Earth) is in tatters. From a scientific point of view, these are ominous signs.


Keep in mind also that Saudi Arabia relies heavily on desalinization plants to secure water, and that these will be destroyed by the kind of cme that the Americans envision. Electrical pumps in reservoirs will also become useless. The taps and other sources of water in your compound will run dry very quickly. Educational institutions and businesses will close down in a hurry. Looting will be rampant as societies all over plunge into social chaos .

I hope you are planning to go to a small, isolated location rather than to large urban areas like Riyadh or Jeddah where the mayhem will probably be the worst. Nevertheless, wherever you go, you will suffer from the disadvantage of being a woman and therefore, because of numerous restrictions, will not be able to act with the speed and flexibility that the crisis will require.

You should also note that the culture of the Kingdom is a very fatalistic one, which might prove to be quite disadvantageous in a situation of calamity.

Finally, don't take my views as gospel. There are dozens of sources that you should consult. "The Galactic Superwave Theory"by quantum physicist Paul la Violette is a good book with which to begin. Many of Immanuel Velikovsky's works have been republished and you should certainly read them. A recent work by Robert Felix titled "Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps" is also well worth studying. In addition, the DUMBS (Deep Underground Military/Maintenance Bunkers) which the Americans and the Russians have been constructing should give you some inkling as to their thinking.

Overseas workers are going to be severely affected if the geophysical forecasts of the USA, Russia and other countries turn out to be true. The point is that such workers, unless they prepare extremely well, will lack the infrastructural advantage held by native residents.

People who are thinking of going overseas to work, regardless of their profession, should reflect very carefully on their plans and take necessary precautions. The old dictum of "forewarned, forearmed" is still relevant.

Good luck. You are going to need it .
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pink_islands



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:21 pm    Post subject: .... Reply with quote

cassava wrote:
scjw;

The government of the United States has been warning other countries of the possibility of a devastating coronal mass ejection (cme) during the height of the next solar cycle. Countries are being urged to develop Faraday cages in order to try to protect their electrical grid.

Physicists like Michio Kaku have claimed that this projected event would be similar to "a Katrina from the skies".

The last, massive cme took place in 1859. It was called the Carrington Event, and was named after the scientist who first observed it. This cme was a world-wide event, which wiped out the newly-installed telegraph system in the USA, and did similar damage in those countries which utilized electricity at the time.

Although the damage from that event was fairly wide-ranging. The cme that the Americans are expecting during the next solar cycle would be catastrophic.

Some biophysicists have pointed to the nature of this disaster and its ripple effects--the collapse of technology, banking systems, communication systems, transportation systems, etc.

If you end up in Saudi Arabia, you should quickly set about collecting and storing as much potable water and mres as possible. In the absence of mres, you should obtain other non-perishable food. You should also form an alliance with those of your colleagues who are interested in developing survival plans and techniques.

This action may become necessary because some geophysicists have pointed out that this cme blast from our Sun may simply be the first of a series of rolling geological disasters. Many astrophysicists and geophysicists are worried by the fact that the heliosphere (the magnet field around the Sun) seems to have vanished, while the magnetosphere
the magnetic field around planet Earth) is in tatters. From a scientific point of view, these are ominous signs.


Keep in mind also that Saudi Arabia relies heavily on desalinization plants to secure water, and that these will be destroyed by the kind of cme that the Americans envision. Electrical pumps in reservoirs will also become useless. The taps and other sources of water in your compound will run dry very quickly. Educational institutions and businesses will close down in a hurry. Looting will be rampant as societies all over plunge into social chaos .

I hope you are planning to go to a small, isolated location rather than to large urban areas like Riyadh or Jeddah where the mayhem will probably be the worst. Nevertheless, wherever you go, you will suffer from the disadvantage of being a woman and therefore, because of numerous restrictions, will not be able to act with the speed and flexibility that the crisis will require.

You should also note that the culture of the Kingdom is a very fatalistic one, which might prove to be quite disadvantageous in a situation of calamity.

Finally, don't take my views as gospel. There are dozens of sources that you should consult. "The Galactic Superwave Theory"by quantum physicist Paul la Violette is a good book with which to begin. Many of Immanuel Velikovsky's works have been republished and you should certainly read them. A recent work by Robert Felix titled "Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps" is also well worth studying. In addition, the DUMBS (Deep Underground Military/Maintenance Bunkers) which the Americans and the Russians have been constructing should give you some inkling as to their thinking.

Overseas workers are going to be severely affected if the geophysical forecasts of the USA, Russia and other countries turn out to be true. The point is that such workers, unless they prepare extremely well, will lack the infrastructural advantage held by native residents.

People who are thinking of going overseas to work, regardless of their profession, should reflect very carefully on their plans and take necessary precautions. The old dictum of "forewarned, forearmed" is still relevant.

Good luck. You are going to need it .


I want whatever this guy is smoking
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Haloolah



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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:02 am    Post subject: that was some post Reply with quote

whoa...................had to read that one twice!
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Haloolah



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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:06 am    Post subject: Princess Nour Uni Reply with quote

regarding places recruiting female teachers in Saudi - Princess Nour University is recruiting a lot of teachers for 9/12. At TESOL Conference (where PNU was interviewing), word was they needed 350 for their opening in September. Was at a graduation party with a Saudi recently who said that PNU has a contract with Auckland to provide English teachers, though.....I'd give it a shot if you are that determined to get to Saudi. Good luck -
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smitty



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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh hell. I actually know a bit about the "Carrington Event" from my chemistry days. It's not expected to happen and if it did, it'll basically screw over the world. A Faraday Cage will do jack for most people because most people don't understand how they'll work. For me, I'll be bummed that I don't have my 1964 Dodge Dart because Chrysler built cars *on purpose* to avoid this in case of a nuclear war.

If you're in KSA when it happens, expect to die. The world won't recover in time to baby-sit.
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