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Difference in Saudi Students and UnizwaSstudents

 
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Beast



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:11 am    Post subject: Difference in Saudi Students and UnizwaSstudents Reply with quote

Too bad about the guy at Unizwa getting fired for some poetry in class. In my class in Saudi... The students celebrated Christmas with a party (cakes, sweets and juice), wrote Merry Christmas on the board and made Christmas stockings and wished the teachers a Merry Christmas, etc. Everybody was cool.Very Different......
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Difference in Saudi Students and UnizwaSstudents Reply with quote

Beast wrote:
Too bad about the guy at Unizwa getting fired for some poetry in class. In my class in Saudi... The students celebrated Christmas with a party (cakes, sweets and juice), wrote Merry Christmas on the board and made Christmas stockings and wished the teachers a Merry Christmas, etc. Everybody was cool.Very Different......

I found that my students in the Gulf always wished us a Happy/Merry at this time of year and many brought in sweets (the 'any excuse for a party' students Laughing).

As to the new teacher who tried to teach level 1 students with John Donne and Gibran rather than the materials provided... Rolling Eyes I heard about that one. All I can say is that it is a good way to not make it past the probationary period. A poor decision on his part compounded by the usual ham-fisted management response.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:48 am    Post subject: re: teacheeerrr!!!!!!!!1 Reply with quote

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A poor decision on his part compounded by the usual ham-fisted management response.


Perhaps, but when you have bad classrooms, non working equipment, textbooks to which the students can't relate...is it all the FT's fault, or that of an archaic system resistant to change and new ideas?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Archaic system? chiseled on stone tablets perhaps? It has only been in existence for 7 or 8 years. Laughing

If one doesn't like the textbooks, you don't drag in Donne for low beginners. Nothing in your list of beefs changes that. A good teacher can manage with chalk and a blackboard. Use common sense...

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:39 pm    Post subject: re: teacheeerrrrr heellllpppp meeeeeeeee Reply with quote

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A good teacher can manage with chalk and a blackboard. Use common sense...


Please outline a lesson plan using just chalk and a blackboard, or rather, marker pen and the whiteboard that is much beloved in the gulf Laughing Twisted Evil Smile Very Happy Surprised
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A professional teacher wouldn't even have to ask that. Many of us on this board spent years doing just that. My condolences that you lack the basic ability.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:28 pm    Post subject: re: teacherrrrrrrrrrr chalk!!!! Reply with quote

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A professional teacher wouldn't even have to ask that. Many of us on this board spent years doing just that


I await your lesson plan using just chalk and a blackboard. For 45 minutes.

The stage is all yours...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I am going to waste my time with clueless, lazy teachers who don't know their own field. I have no obligations to educate you. Try doing a bit of research to improve yourself.

Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear urbanversion,

Socrates managed OK without even a blackboard and chalk. And some of us, who began teaching decades ago, had only those aids for a while. Actually, in some parts of the world (including the community college I'm teaching in in Santa Fe NM) that's all we still have.

If you're serious about your apparent implication - which seems to be that it would be difficult to create a lesson plan when one has only chalk and a blackboard - you might want to consider more training.

But if I'm mistaken about your implication, I apologize. And if that's the case, what exactly did you mean?

Regards,
John
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urbanversion



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: re: vs is infallible? Reply with quote

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I have no obligations to educate you


Nor did I ASK or REQUIRE to be educated by you. How delightfully overbearing and pompous on your part!

I am sure your grandchildren must love you really, and every student in the gulf loved you. You are perfect....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still do some lessons with just a piece of chalk and a chalkboard - it's the norm at the health sciences faculty at this international university....what's the problem with that? Shocked
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