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undrmynd



Joined: 16 May 2004
Posts: 28
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 10:41 pm    Post subject: First time teaching jobs....? Reply with quote

Hello, I am from Canada, 26 years old and am looking for a teaching job starting sometime in January 2005.
I have compleated 3 years of college but do not have a degree. I am taking a TESL course from Pan Pacific college that will end in December.
I am very interested in working in Nepal, Indonesia or The Phillipeans. But am haveing some trouble finding information about Nepal. I don't really know where to begin and I am sorry if this topic is like so many others. Any information you have or any links to go to would be great.
Thank you all!!!!!

ps. I don't want to do volunteer work in Nepal, but that is all I seem to be finding.
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scot47



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2004 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of the three places that interest you I think Indonesia would be the best bet. Not sure what qualifications you might need but there are paying jobs there. In Nepal you are likely to find only volunteer-level jobs. The Philippines ? I have never heard of anyone landing an EFL job there.

They export teachers.
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Albulbul



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2004 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now all those who are Scot47-phobic please note that he has posted something that is HELPFUL.

Is this a new, gentler scot47 ? Or a cunning plan to fool the unwary ?
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nolefan



Joined: 14 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2004 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am with Scott on this one: Indonesia might be your best bet even though it is a tough country to get EFL positions in. As far as nepal goes, forget about it.
The phillipines are more realistic about Education in general and they don't see a need for foreign teachers.
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2004 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nolefan wrote:
Indonesia might be your best bet even though it is a tough country to get EFL positions in.


Say what? Indonesia is one of the EASIEST countries to find TEFL work in. I know of teachers who were hired with no prior experience, no BA, and no TEFL certificate.
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Desiree



Joined: 17 May 2004
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Location: Portland, OR

PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 3:31 pm    Post subject: Indonesia Reply with quote

From what I've heard, Indonesia is one of the most dangerous places in the world (esp. for westerners) -- which may be one of the reasons why jobs are plentiful there.

Have you considered China?
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lagerlout2006



Joined: 17 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard of some teaching in the Philipines but the students are Korean and Japanese...I think you would need to be decently qualified. Also heard of some in Nepal but yes---bring cash if you go,,,
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ls650



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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 8:46 am    Post subject: Re: Indonesia Reply with quote

Desiree wrote:
From what I've heard, Indonesia is one of the most dangerous places in the world (esp. for westerners)


Oh brother. Rolling Eyes
I live here. What you've heard is wrong.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Safe ? People in Belfast have told me that Saudi Arabia is not safe. I feel safer in Saudi than I would in Belfast. I am sure that is true in Indonesia too.

Perceptions are strange.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a posting recently on lonelyplanet.com from somone who was thinking of travelling to Mexico but was scared off by her friends' stories of possible danger.

She lived in Los Angeles. I pointed out to her that she was probably in a lot more danger in LA than in most of Mexico...
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Ludwig



Joined: 26 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in HK I quite regularly meet ex-pats of some 40+ years residence, yet who have never been to mainland China, not even on a day-trip. The reason usually given is that China is "too dangerous".

Anyway, to return to the original point.

'Undermined', I would forget "The Phillipeans" as they simply do not exist. In the Philippines, however, there is little call for teachers (and not too much cash to pay anyone with). There is, believe it or not, actually a reason why they export labour as part of official government policy. Besides, English is an official language of the state (which is one of the reasons why even poor uneducated country girls get employed by well-to-do families here in HK as maids). I guess they can also already spell 'completed'.

You say that you are "haveing [sic] some trouble finding information about Nepal". Might this not be since there are no [paid] TEFL posts there? Who, exactly, do you think has money there with which to pay English teachers? Have you ever been to places like "The Phillipeans" and Nepal? They - whatever their respective strengths, attractions, etc. - are not exactly prime examples of development.
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stillnosheep



Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ludwig wrote:


In the Philippines [...] even poor uneducated country girls can [...] already spell 'completed'.

You say that you are "haveing [sic] some trouble finding information about Nepal". Might this not be since there are no [paid] TEFL posts there? [...] "The Phillipeans" and Nepal? They - whatever their respective strengths, attractions, etc. - are not exactly prime examples of development.


So who's a clever boy then, Ludwig? Pouring scorn on a newbie in the newbie forum for three minor mis-typings in an online posting. Tsk, tsk.

The OP made it clear that he would be interested in teaching in Nepal, amongst other countries, and that he could find little information about this. He didn't express any surprise at this so there is no need to make fatuous remarks as to why this may be. But there again Ludwig, you are the man who advised another first poster that an Open University degree is not respected in HK and not to be considered the equal of a 'proper, fulltime, campus-based' degree for the purpose of working in Japan. The Open University (for the non-English among us) is an eminently repectable, official, government backed, UK university which specialises in distance learning combined with short residential courses and whose world class faculty includes some of the most prestigious and respected academics on the planet.

So there!

Oh and I believe that you'll find that the OP is called undrmynd, not 'undermined', and that there is no need for the ''s. It's his real username; there is nothing so-called or ironic about it.

Undrmynd, good luck with your TESL course. I hope that you find the job of your dreams, and if you find anything interesting in Nepal please give me a shout! You could always work in Korea first to save some cash and give yourself the option of working somewhere less well paid later.

Good luck!
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