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celta



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:42 am    Post subject: Need PGDE for NET??? Reply with quote

Sorry if this has already been asked Embarassed

A HK teacher just told me you need a PGCE (or PGDE) to get on the NET Scheme.

Is this true, as i can't recall reading this anywhere? Embarassed

I have BSc, CELTA + a bit of experience.

Thx Smile
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Joshua2006



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Along with every other answer regarding the NET recruitment process, it seems to be different for every case.

Send in the application. If you don't pass, they won't tell you why. If you do pass the initial selection process, then you are a long way of the way there.

Whilst they say they want this, that and everything else, it is evident that when it comes to the interview all of this goes straight out of the window.

There is no uniform requirement, despite what they say on the website.

Of course though, it would help to have as much as possible under your belt. It always does.
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Perilla



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I can't be 100% sure, from what I've gathered over the years, very few secondary NETs are recruited without having QTS (qualified teacher status), however, a fair percentage of primary NETs are recruited without professional teacher quals.

Worth mentioning perhaps that if you don't have QTS you will remain at the bottom of the salary scale, though with the special allowance the total salary is still quite good.

I agree with Joshua that the best way of finding out is to give it a go.
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therock



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which kind of candidate would the EdB more likely select?

Candidate A - BA in English + CELTA + 1 or 2 years experience

Candidate B - BA (any field) + CELTA + PGDE, but no experience.
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Perilla



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both would be long shots, IMO. However, if the PGDE was obtained in HK, that would be an advantage.
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celta



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thx guys.

Much appreciated Very Happy
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Joshua2006



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

therock wrote:
Which kind of candidate would the EdB more likely select?

Candidate A - BA in English + CELTA + 1 or 2 years experience

Candidate B - BA (any field) + CELTA + PGDE, but no experience.

Call and ask them, and then let us know when you get an answer...
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Honky Nick



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to their website, you can be hired without a PGCE. You would be recognised as Category 4. It just means that you can't progress beyond pt. 20 on the payscale.

http://www.edb.gov.hk/index.aspx?langno=1&nodeid=1300

Category 1 (to be appointed at Assistant Primary School Master/Mistress (APSM) rank, MPS pt. 15-29)

(i) a bachelor�s degree in English (i.e. majoring in English Language or English Literature or English Studies or Linguistics# or a Modern Language#) from a Hong Kong university or equivalent;
(ii) a recognized teacher training qualification in primary education; and
(iii) a Teaching of English as a Foreign Language or a Second Language (TEFL/TESL) qualification at least at certificate level, or an equivalent course of study recognised by EDB*.

Category 2 (to be appointed at APSM rank, MPS pt. 15-29)

(i) a bachelor�s degree in any subject from a Hong Kong university or equivalent;
(ii) a recognised teacher training qualification in primary education; and
(iii) a TEFL/TESL qualification at least at certificate level, or an equivalent course of study recognised by EDB*.

In the event that candidates meeting the requirements in Category 1 - 2 cannot be recruited, consideration may be given to appoint teachers with the following qualifications:

Category 3 (to be appointed at APSM rank, MPS pt. 15-29)

(i) a bachelor�s degree in any subject from a Hong Kong university or equivalent;
(ii) a recognised teacher training qualification; and
(iii) a TEFL/TESL qualification at least at certificate level, or an equivalent course of study recognised by EDB*.

Category 4 (to be appointed at APSM rank, MPS pt. 15-29, with salary bar at MPS Point 20)

(i) a bachelor�s degree in any subject from a Hong Kong university or equivalent; and
(ii) a TEFL/TESL qualification at least at certificate level, or an equivalent course of study recognised by EDB*.


Category 5 (to be appointed at Certificated Master/Mistress (CM) rank, MPS pt. 14-24)

(i) a recognised teacher�s certificate obtained after at least 2 years� full-time study or equivalent; and
(ii) a TEFL/TESL qualification at least at certificate level, or an equivalent course of study recognised by EDB*.

Candidates who are considered for appointment but possess non-local qualifications need to have their qualifications assessed by the Hong Kong Council for Accreditation of Academic and Vocational Qualifications (HKCAAVQ) as to whether their qualifications are comparable to local bachelor�s degrees and local initial teacher training qualifications. The assessment results of the HKCAAVQ shall be final.[url][/url]
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Perilla



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, (as above) but how about Secondary NETs?
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Joshua2006



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone I know with little experience, a random degree and a CELTA got hired.

Someone else I know with a CELTA, MA in TESOL and a progressing PGDE and about 10 years in Korea in uni and secondary schools, didn't get hired.

Whatever they say on their website is not what they hold fast to.....
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Wael Wadi



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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: PGDE vs Florida Dept of Ed Primary Teacing Certificate Reply with quote

This was originally in another post but was buried so I copied/pasted here.

1. Is a US State (Florida) DoE Ed. Cert. recognized even though one had a CDN passport?

3. Which one of these titles might catch the eye of the EDB resume screeners?

Elementary Education (grades K-6)
Prekindergarten/Primary Education (age 3 through grade 3)
Preschool Education (birth through age 4)



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Wael Wadi



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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interested in a PNET position.

Cost of PDGE.

A HKID holder's PGDE fees are about HKD41,000+ at HKU. As I understand, NETS in public schools are not give this ID. So, is the HKD119.000+ fee for the PGDE for the NETS?

And a pretty specific question here....does anyone have any experience being Canadian and possessing a US state teaching certificate? Does it matter?

ww
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ozman



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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perilla wrote:
Yes, (as above) but how about Secondary NETs?


the various categories/qualifications for secondary NETS are also on EDB website.
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ozman



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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joshua2006 wrote:
Someone I know with little experience, a random degree and a CELTA got hired.

Someone else I know with a CELTA, MA in TESOL and a progressing PGDE and about 10 years in Korea in uni and secondary schools, didn't get hired.

Whatever they say on their website is not what they hold fast to.....


I personally know people here on NET scheme who were unsuccessful at the interview one year; they applied again and were successful. why is that? The two people I know in question got different interviewers on their second time around. It comes down to who is doing the interviewing. Some of the people doing the interviewing for the primary NETS are extremely disagreeable and hard cases.
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ozman



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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wael Wadi wrote:
I'm interested in a PNET position.

Cost of PDGE.

A HKID holder's PGDE fees are about HKD41,000+ at HKU. As I understand, NETS in public schools are not give this ID. So, is the HKD119.000+ fee for the PGDE for the NETS?

And a pretty specific question here....does anyone have any experience being Canadian and possessing a US state teaching certificate? Does it matter?

ww


everyone who works / lives in Hong Kong has to have an ID card. As a HK resident you are entitled to the same benefits and would pay the same fee as locals. This is only if you are holding a work visa or dependent visa. if you are on a student visa, then obviously you are classed as an international student and pay more money. NETS all have HK id's. Many study part time and pay the same as locals.
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