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schieft



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:22 am    Post subject: Must currently reside in Japan? Reply with quote
I've been looking at jobs in Osaka lately, and every single one I see says "Must currently reside in Japan." Is this for real, or just something they say to keep the number of applicants down?

If it is for real, would it be a bad idea to fly to Osaka and try to find a job once on the ground?

EDIT: Also, I have a Masters degree in an unrelated field. Would that give me any sway if I was not already in Japan?

Thanks!
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ssjup81



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
They're probably serious. If you're already residing there and want you for the position that's being offered, then they wouldn't have to worry about the long drawn out process of getting things like work visas in order. They could also probably make their decisions quicker if the people are already there and can do a face-to-face interview with them.

As to the second part of your question (flying out there), not sure, but I'll let the more experienced members answer that one.
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rtm



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: Must currently reside in Japan? Reply with quote
schieft wrote:
I've been looking at jobs in Osaka lately, and every single one I see says "Must currently reside in Japan." Is this for real, or just something they say to keep the number of applicants down?

If it is for real, would it be a bad idea to fly to Osaka and try to find a job once on the ground?

EDIT: Also, I have a Masters degree in an unrelated field. Would that give me any sway if I was not already in Japan?

Thanks!


From what I understand, "must currently reside in Japan" usually means that you should already have a valid visa that allows you to work in Japan. In that sense, having an unrelated masters wouldn't matter at all.
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steki47



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The second time I came to Japan I still had a valid work visa from the last time so that was a huge plus when doing phone interviews. Other companies insisted on in-person interviews and I can't blame them. Lots of us floating around Japan, looking for work.

If you don't have the cash or confidence to fly here, stay at a guest house and pound the pavement, I suggest looking for the few schools that don't require you to be in Japan. Some advertise here. PM for more details.

Other than that, the big chains interview overseas.
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Rooster_2006



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Must currently reside in Japan? Reply with quote
rtm wrote:
schieft wrote:
I've been looking at jobs in Osaka lately, and every single one I see says "Must currently reside in Japan." Is this for real, or just something they say to keep the number of applicants down?

If it is for real, would it be a bad idea to fly to Osaka and try to find a job once on the ground?

EDIT: Also, I have a Masters degree in an unrelated field. Would that give me any sway if I was not already in Japan?

Thanks!


From what I understand, "must currently reside in Japan" usually means that you should already have a valid visa that allows you to work in Japan. In that sense, having an unrelated masters wouldn't matter at all.


Not in my (albeit limited) experience. I flew in on a tourist visa to Osaka, applied for a "must currently reside in Japan job," and was hired.

Some employers want you to already have a visa, but other employers are willing to sponsor one, but want to make sure you'll actually show up in Japan before they do. Hiring from abroad is an extremely risky proposition. My employer tried for months to recruit people from Taiwan, Thailand, etc. before getting irritated with all the flakiness. So she finally decided to interview candidates only physically present in Japan -- which is how I got hired.

However, I agree with your statement on the master's degree. A master's degree matters very little for most entry-level eikaiwa positions.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Must currently reside in Japan? Reply with quote
schieft wrote:
I've been looking at jobs in Osaka lately, and every single one I see says "Must currently reside in Japan." Is this for real, or just something they say to keep the number of applicants down?
It means precisely what it says. If they also choose to not sponsor visas, they often say so. Not all employers have the money to recruit overseas, some don't want/know how to use Skype, some want people who have some experience already living here, some want less down time in people starting work compared to waiting for them to fly here, etc.

But not all employers advertise for candidates to reside in Japan.

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If it is for real, would it be a bad idea to fly to Osaka and try to find a job once on the ground?
If you can afford it, you will have more opportunities to interview. You should plan on bringing US$4000-5000 to support yourself until the first paycheck, though. It may also depend on when you choose to come.

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EDIT: Also, I have a Masters degree in an unrelated field. Would that give me any sway if I was not already in Japan?
Doubtful for most entry level jobs, but there are other factors at play, too, and one cannot always predict what employers want.
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