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veiledsentiments

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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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lollaerd wrote: |
If this FIR system is what they use to fire people, then he is right to be worried. None of his comments say he "hates the system". Most of his comments reiterate that old problems remain current problems. |
As I understand, this is a system of putting in writing any situation that may require a reprimand of some sort. The teacher then has the right to write down their side of the story and both are placed in their files. It was put in place because teachers felt that notes were being made in their files and they didn't even know it. So... management can't win either. First teachers complained because things weren't written down with copies to them... then new teachers arrive and complain because things are written down.
When a new teacher comes on here and complains... publicly and repeatedly... about nearly every single detail of the new employment, why would I not assume that this person hated the job. Thus far, s/he has pointed out that she dislikes the housing, the management procedures, the required paperwork, the notification procedure, the curriculum, the student levels... and the traffic. (I'm sure I missed some)
And most of it is just pretty typical of Gulf tertiary employment ...
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lollaerd
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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veiledsentiments wrote: |
When a new teacher comes on here and complains... publicly and repeatedly... about nearly every single detail of the new employment, why would I not assume that this person hated the job. Thus far, s/he has pointed out that she dislikes the housing, the management procedures, the required paperwork, the notification procedure, the curriculum, the student levels... and the traffic. (I'm sure I missed some)
And most of it is just pretty typical of Gulf tertiary employment ...
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You're right. it is typical. Most of the teachers I've worked with have had similar complaints in the first few months. It doesn't mean they hate the job, their in a state of job shock - that's all. Probably culture shock, too.
We all need to moan now and then. Some people do it publicly, that's all. Probably because nobody is listening. I think this person just needs time to settle in. |
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veiledsentiments

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hopefully... but s/he should be aware that an important rule of the Middle East is that you don't wash your dirty laundry in public. It is easy for your direct bosses to identify who you are after posts like this... but more important are the higher up Qataris in management, who will insist that you be gone or at best, not renewed...
Rants may make one feel better, but they can also get you fired...
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battleshipb_b
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:53 am Post subject: Re: Qatar Uni latest info needed |
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[quote="squirk"][quote="Bindair Dundat"]
I was offered a position at QU but didn't take it because their post-offer behavior was so bizarre. I think the guy who runs the show there is more interested on some days than on others in doing his job.
If you want the job, go to the interview.[/quote]
You could be right, he plays on his computer a lot. Not very communicative and seems to always be appraising you both literally and figuratively. I'd say some personality probs.[/quote]
Personality probs is the least of it. Try control freak. |
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thursday12
Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 93
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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My advice - stay away. Too many dysfunctional people on da 3rd floor. The lady who messed up the SS waz given her job back after leavin fer a year!!! How *beep* da law was flaunted?????? Shows da dey break da rules when it suits dem! |
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lollaerd
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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:21 am Post subject: |
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I heard about this famous case. It really is weird that someone who quits is allowed to re-enter the country to work at the same job within a six month span. Most people are banned for two years. This teacher must have good contacts. Remember, people can always bend the law. Maybe the director had contacts in immigration. Who knows? It happens. If this teacher is so lousy, then it's too bad that he/she was allowed back in, especially to a position with authority. But that's how it goes, if you're in with the in crowd and play their games, you get to hang around. Unethical but true. I am a real cynic after 10 years in Qatar. My decision to return to the United States was the right one for me and my gal. |
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lollaerd
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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:22 am Post subject: |
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I heard about this famous case. It really is weird that someone who quits is allowed to re-enter the country to work at the same job within a six month span. Most people are banned for two years. This teacher must have good contacts. Remember, people can always bend the law. Maybe the director had contacts in immigration. Who knows? It happens. If this teacher is so lousy, then it's too bad that he/she was allowed back in, especially to a position with authority. But that's how it goes, if you're in with the in crowd and play their games, you get to hang around. Unethical but true. I am a real cynic after 10 years in Qatar. My decision to return to the United States was the right one for me and my gal. |
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wilberforce
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Latest news is not good. People fired and the program is going to be shrunk which means more jobs on the line. Definitely not a place to apply for as they shouldn't be hiring if they are going to shrink. |
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veiledsentiments

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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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wilberforce wrote: |
Latest news is not good. People fired and the program is going to be shrunk which means more jobs on the line. Definitely not a place to apply for as they shouldn't be hiring if they are going to shrink. |
This is not yet "news" but rumor. There is discussion of changing to a one year program, but we all know how such talk goes. Only a handful of teachers have left lately - for whatever reason, and we all know that there is often early attrition on these large programs (over 100 teachers).
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wilberforce
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:43 am Post subject: |
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The latest I heard yesterday is that the Foundation program is on its lasts legs. They employ over 120 teachers. How many will they be getting rid of?
So they will go back to the old system of teaching in Arabic. It looks like the foundation teachers will be out of a job.
QU�s instruction medium to be Arabic Wednesday, 25 January 2012 02:52
Doha: The Supreme Education Council has issued a decision that Arabic language shall be the medium of instruction at the Qatar University (QU).
The decision also states that students are directly be accepted in all programs that being taught in Arabic language as of fall 2012 semester, without the need to study the Foundation Programme, and that the University is to consider the courses which students passed as part of the Foundation Programme within the requirements of QU.
The decision also provides for the Arabic language shall be as medium of instruction at the Faculty of Law as well as in the disciplines of international affairs, Media and the Faculty of Business Administration as of the fall 2012 semester.
The QU is required to take the necessary measures to implement this decision.
The decision provides for applying its provisions to all students currently enrolled in the Foundation Programme and those who have already joined programs and were not be able to complete their studies because they did not meet the admission requirements for the programs taught in Arabic language at the university. QNA |
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battleshipb_b
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:07 am Post subject: |
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[Spring holidays have begun and the university administration doesn�t really have much time to switch to the new medium of instruction, which calls for not only text books and other reading materials in Arabic for the above key streams but also able and experienced teachers who could impart quality education in these disciplines.
[Then, the question of what happens to the existing faculty members who have been giving instructions in the said streams in English, needs to be resolved amicably.
The university administration should keep in mind that undue delays in implementing the change would make it vulnerable to widespread criticism in the local media from the students, their parents or guardians and the community as a whole. The Peninsula
As you can see, the latest info suggests that they will have to get rid of a lot of teachers. This will probably include the foundation teachers and non-Arabic speaking lecturers who are teaching in the colleges which will now have Arabic medium of instruction courses. This news must be a nightmare for the teaching staff. What is going to happen to them? |
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idaho_potato
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Latest info according to teachers at TESOL Arabia Conference two weeks ago - about 10 teachers were fired and they plan to bring in 30 new ones. They will also give newbies a very large salary, 17,000 QR per month which is a huge sum for Qatar teachers. The problem is that teachers who already work there don't have such a big base salary and this offer is 26% more than what they get now. What will this pay discrepancy mean for people. Having worked in two places (SQU and QP) where this happened, I can predict a lot of resentment. They need to fix this. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Fired? Come on... you boys (or perhaps boy) insist on playing this game every year. It is a department of 130 or so teachers... and their normal turnover - resignations and non-renewals is the same as every department its size in the Gulf.
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