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Is there a pollution limit for you?
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

choudoufu wrote:
bro, beijing and shanghai are not china.

plenty of locations with minimal or no pollution.
guangxi, guizhou, yunnan, hainan come to mind.


That's true, China's a big place. Yunnan was especially nice when I went there.

Just looking at the Air Quality Index map for China reveals some 'clean' places (though not ideal). The trouble is, I'm not sure how reliable that map is. I mean, if you look at Lanzhou (reportedly one of, if not the, most polluted places in China. The AQI lists '55'....
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JoeKing



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shroob wrote:
choudoufu wrote:
bro, beijing and shanghai are not china.

plenty of locations with minimal or no pollution.
guangxi, guizhou, yunnan, hainan come to mind.


That's true, China's a big place. Yunnan was especially nice when I went there.

Just looking at the Air Quality Index map for China reveals some 'clean' places (though not ideal). The trouble is, I'm not sure how reliable that map is. I mean, if you look at Lanzhou (reportedly one of, if not the, most polluted places in China. The AQI lists '55'....
Back in October, when the schools were closed for a week here in Ningbo due to the massive street flooding related to the typhoon, the locals were all saying that they had never ever experienced flooding like that.

Now they are telling me they have never ever seen smog like this. To be sure, this squares with my limited research back in the beginning of August, when I was trying to figure out which contract to accept. I even wrote a post about the honor of being offered a position in Linfen, China, reportedly the most polluted city in the country, if not the world.

But damn, what's next? A plaque of locusts in biblical proportions?
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NoBillyNO



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As if anyone knew what the numbers meant before last year... and yet now you consider these numbers run-a-way-able.


someone has your number, WLamar
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NoBillyNO



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

China needs that Indian shedding a tear...or Lady Bird Johnson ....
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mambawamba



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just checked the AQI for our coastal home town in the UK, a skin blistering, eyes streaming 9.

Yes 9.

We've got 456 here in Qingdao today.

Even though I'm digging the slight woozy head I can't help but want to have a walk on the prom at home breathing in good old fashioned air. Might go home and start bottling it to send out here.
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shroob wrote:
choudoufu wrote:
plenty of locations with minimal or no pollution. guangxi, guizhou, yunnan, hainan come to mind.


That's true, China's a big place. Yunnan was especially nice when I went there.


Yeah, I'm thinkin' of gettin' out of this polluted mess called Chengdu for three weeks or so in January. Head down South and get my Yunnan on--head far far south to Xishuangbanna and enjoy some warm temperatures while I'm at it.

Then maybe hop over to Guangxi and rent a bike and ride it around. Sounds pretty good to me.

Warm regards,
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BruceLeeWannaBe



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beijing censors out the internet. Now they censor out the air.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oR8d1PZvYRI
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NoBillyNO



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say when you have to strain air through your teeth, it is time to move on.
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Toast



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in Wuxi in the 'Su it hit 600 or so overnight, and hasn't really dropped below 250 or so for the past week. Was hoping the drops in temperature and stronger winds today would clear things out, but alas no sign. Kind of a shame since for this time of year the weather on the weekend was beautiful, but no way was I going outside and inhaling the full brunt of that shit. Seriously most of Saturday and Sunday looked as though there was a forest fire somewhere nearby.

Likewise Mambawamba I did a check of my home and it was a whopping 5. And that's a factory town!! Depressingly even vile Linfen has been sitting down around 100.

The trend for air cleanliness in China is certainly falling down the crapper. Seems a lot of negative records have been set this year. Positive side of the coin is the wife refuses to have a baby while we're living in this place for fear of it growing up gimpish, so if any of you kind folks know of a 5~10 year contract available, shoot me a PM!, lol.
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JoeKing



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toast wrote:
Here in Wuxi in the 'Su it hit 600 or so overnight, and hasn't really dropped below 250 or so for the past week. Was hoping the drops in temperature and stronger winds today would clear things out, but alas no sign. Kind of a shame since for this time of year the weather on the weekend was beautiful, but no way was I going outside and inhaling the full brunt of that shit. Seriously most of Saturday and Sunday looked as though there was a forest fire somewhere nearby.


That's a good description of it, and is what I see outside my window right now. I heard it is supposed to clear in the next day. Let's hope so!
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mambawamba



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woooh-hoooo! We have breathe-able, non toxic well nearly, air today. Rain, strong winds and snow have cleared it. Down to 114. Might even risk taking the boy-child out tomorrow.
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BruceLeeWannaBe wrote:
beijing censors out the internet. Now they censor out the air.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oR8d1PZvYRI


Hey, thanks for posting that video. It was well done. Pretty funny but made the point clear that it's "deadly" serious. Am gonna check out more of his videos.

Warm regards,
fat_chris
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I note foul air now in glorious Hainan - even Sanya.
The wealthy Northerners visiting on Spring Festival will be hacked to find that the air isn't much better than home.
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
I note foul air now in glorious Hainan - even Sanya.
The wealthy Northerners visiting on Spring Festival will be hacked to find that the air isn't much better than home.


that's just the fumes from frying russian cellulite. it clears up when the
sun goes down.

haikou can get slightly toxic from all the traffic, sanya not as bad.
the rest of the island is clear.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to hear.
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1340860/sanya-hainan-covered-smog-shock-resort-residents-and-visitors
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