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nimadecaomei



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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Class monitors do not work for the teachers, it is not a difficult thing to figure out. They are appointed by the CCP section of the university. They are often not useful in even doing what is expected (I have seen some great ones, but many disappoint). If you want to have a leader in the class who will help, you need to dig deeper.
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ChrisHenry15



Joined: 03 Jan 2015
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nimadecaomei wrote:
Class monitors do not work for the teachers, it is not a difficult thing to figure out. They are appointed by the CCP section of the university. They are often not useful in even doing what is expected (I have seen some great ones, but many disappoint). If you want to have a leader in the class who will help, you need to dig deeper.


They are supposed to help with attendance, printing, and other class related duties. Granted, YMMV.
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Foo_Fighters_Dave



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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't you come to this job on a business visa and transfer it to a Z in Hong Kong? I think I remember you posting this.

What was the conflict about?
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Mixal



Joined: 08 Apr 2015
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote:
Mixal wrote:
What about those fees if you cancel a contract before it expires? Very Happy I've seen them in most uni contracts.


Those clauses are in every public college and university contract I've ever read or signed. They're probably in every other schools' contract as well.


Yeah, but I was wondering what happens in practice. Since the OP has taught for some 6 months, I don't know when her contract is finishing... I think the general census is that it's very difficult to change employers in the middle of a contract nowadays.
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given that 'changing employers' is a euphemism for 'breaking the contract' I would imagine there are likely penalties.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
Given that 'changing employers' is a euphemism for 'breaking the contract' I would imagine there are likely penalties.


I have only two first hand observations about FTs who wanted to get out of their public university contracts. (I'm not one of them). It was a win-win situation for both sides. In both cases the school was more than glad to see the FT leave and wanted the teacher to leave ASAP. Sorting out penalties would have just prolonged the teachers' stay.
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MsHoffman



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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no interest in leaving my contract early and overall I'm very happy here.

The conflict had nothing to do with immigration stuff. Yes I converted from an "L" tourist visa and that went fine, I posted the whole thing here, etc.

The short version of the conflict story is that the FAO really really screwed me, the result of which was I was homeless for awhile when I had first arrived here and knew no one.

Getting this conflict resolved took a lot of work on my part, and it was so time consuming that it affected my teaching work, which really pissed me off. Anyway, the conflict is resolved now so yes I hope people have put this behind them and that the renewal won't be a problem. I'm in a nice rhythm here with social life and work so I'd like to continue in this position.

Also I received my Departmental Evaluation (the department chair comes and observes your entire class + then writes a report), a week ago and I got a very high score, with comments like "very organized" and "serious instructor", so I hope that helps as well Smile
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote:
Non Sequitur wrote:
Given that 'changing employers' is a euphemism for 'breaking the contract' I would imagine there are likely penalties.


I have only two first hand observations about FTs who wanted to get out of their public university contracts. (I'm not one of them). It was a win-win situation for both sides. In both cases the school was more than glad to see the FT leave and wanted the teacher to leave ASAP. Sorting out penalties would have just prolonged the teachers' stay.


I think that's a dismissal.
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MsHoffman



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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, it's funny, even though many more experienced people on here say my contract won't get renewed somehow I still think there's a 50-50 shot.

I should know for sure one way or the other by May 19. I'll let you all know what happens.

In the mean time, I will continue to play it safe and look for other positions.
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ChrisHenry15



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The writing is on the wall.
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