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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What term, Van, would you use to describe a character that is incapable of understanding -

(i) you actually have to pay to do an MA
(ii) you will have to support yourself while doing so and
(iii) to make your MA profitable you need to get a job with $'x' savings for 'y' number of years.

That type of maths is regularly calculated by 6 year olds. Any adult that can't manage it is not playing with a full deck.

It's not much more difficult than understanding that when you take something off the supermarket shelf and put it in your trolley, you will eventually have to give some money (called a payment) to a cashier sat behind an electronic box (a till) which is full of not sweets but money.

We're not talking spending habits here. Just elementary maths.
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Cleopatra



Joined: 28 Jun 2003
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Location: Tuamago Archipelago

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sheffield Hallam look at your British passport and don't care where you live.


Yes, but what if your only passport is a USAnian one, which I assume to be the case for the OP?
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then you will be charged as an overseas, non-Europe student.

Sorry, Id forgotten the OP was USAnian
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007



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amity wrote:
Speaking of which, is there a cheaper country to get an M.A.? (studying in English of course.) In particular, is it possible to live in England for 6 months while working a low level job just to scrape by, and then be eligible for residency status and a cheap AND good Master's degree?
I am definitely one of the savers. After I got out of high school I lived overseas until I was 21 so that my parents income would not be taken into account. As a result, I got a very cheap education.

US citizens who want to work in UK need to apply for a work permit. Work permits are specific to an employer, so a new one is required for each new employer.
Which means, any US citizen, who wants to study in a UK university needs to pay full-time postgraduate international student fees, which is around �8000 /year (equivalent of $15740).

If you stay longer than 3 months in the UK, then you need a visa.
You may contact the British Embassy in DC for details, or the following link:
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/contactus/
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we have a source for your claim work permits are tied to the employer. They are talking about reintroducing this restriction for domestic servants, but what other types of visas does it apply to?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Van Norden wrote:
I do take issue with VS's vicious attack on the illustrious CLUB300. Correct me if I'm wrong VS, but I doubt you ever attended one meeting during your time in the Middle East. If you had I've no doubt you would've been won over. You would've been singing "Halala u akhbar" or "Halleluja halala" with the rest of us.

You are, of course, correct that I have never attended one meeting, but only because I was never invited... a fact that has haunted me ever since... Crying or Very sad

VS
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007



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen Jones wrote:
Can we have a source for your claim work permits are tied to the employer.

There are a number of Immigration categories in the UK that are collectively known as work permits.
UK work permit applications can only ever be made (or signed) by a UK employer.
UK employers should be able to recruit from overseas where and if it is not possible for them to recruit a suitable resident worker.
http://www.uk-wp.com
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are not talking about why for most categories of work permits you need a job beforehand (though not for skilled migrant, working holiday, or student visas which probably cover the majority of workers). We are talking about whether a migrant is tied to that employer as he would be with an HIB in the US, or as he is in Saudi for the duration of the contract at least.
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Van Norden



Joined: 23 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheikh'n Stevens wrote:
What term, Van, would you use to describe a character that is incapable of understanding -
(i) you actually have to pay to do an MA
(ii) you will have to support yourself while doing so and
(iii) to make your MA profitable you need to get a job with $'x' savings for 'y' number of years.

Sheikh, I'd opt for a more benign term than halfwit. Something less judgemental. Might I suggest 'Fiscally Challenged?' (or just plain FC.) Another good option is 'Differently Abled in Financial Transactions' (or just plain DAFT.)

Everyone thinks he looks daft but you can have your dream...
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the fact that you haven't erased all memory of Shakin' Stevens from your mind have anything to do with your liking for euphemisms ...
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Van Norden



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No connection Sheikh, but try erasing this from your memory:

Shakin Stevens wrote:
This ole house just groans and trembles
When the night wind flings out its arms
This ole house is gettin' feeble
This old house is needin' paint
Just like me it's tuckered out
But I'm a-gettin' ready to meet the saints
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ole Shakey needs an empty grave waiting for him with 'He finally let us R.I.P' as an epitaph ....

Even after the torture he put us through ... his lyrics suggest he still thinks he's going to heaven ... not likely ...
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