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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: TEFLed out |
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| Try applying for a job in translation when all you have got is, I picked up the language whilst I was TEFLing. |
And even then only the slang. |
No, I speak a foreign language fluently  |
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Henry_Cowell

Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| 50-60 hours a week-you will be doing that in TEFL if you want to make ends meet. |
I don't. I bet Stephen doesn't either.  |
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Neither do I but you, Stephan and I are at the pinnacle of our TEFL career.  |
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:45 am Post subject: |
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50-60 hours per week in EFL?!?!? Have I just been really lucky these past 8 years?
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| No, you haven't been lucky because you have been in TEFL. |
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Henry_Cowell

Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| thrifty wrote: |
Neither do I but you, Stephan and I are at the pinnacle of our TEFL career.  |
I don't have a TEFL career. Sorry to burst your bubble. |
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| I was being sarcastic, of course we don't have a TEFL career-there is no such thing. |
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goodbye
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 17
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Let's face it: a lot of jobs can be said to be dead end jobs. I'd like to be a cliche for a moment and point out that one's job is largely what the holder makes of it. |
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Henry_Cowell

Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| goodbye wrote: |
| Let's face it: a lot of jobs can be said to be dead end jobs. I'd like to be a cliche for a moment and point out that one's job is largely what the holder makes of it. |
Exactly. And dead-end people tend to find themselves in dead-end jobs. Well said! |
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| goodbye wrote: |
| Let's face it: a lot of jobs can be said to be dead end jobs. I'd like to be a cliche for a moment and point out that one's job is largely what the holder makes of it. |
Crap. If one was a cleaner what could one make of it or a security guard or a TEFLer? |
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Henry_Cowell

Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| If one was a cleaner what could one make of it or a security guard or a TEFLer? |
I think a cleaner could make a TEFLer a lot more presentable in the classroom. |
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sidjameson
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 629 Location: osaka
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:23 am Post subject: |
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More and more people are going to university in western countries that really shouldn't be.
More and more of those same graduate, then realising that they can't get anything like a decent job decide to give TEFL a go.
Many of the less able TEFLers stick with it cuz there really ain't nothing to go home to. Add a few years and this becomes a almost inescapable fact.
Therefore the numbers of "teachers" out there is always increasing and so the pay being offered always decreasing. This is born out in the apparent reality that every country that I know of has seen some serious pay cuts for TEFL in the last decade.
In asia I get the feeling that Chinese and other asian languages are also on the rise. This is eating into the size of the TEFL market. Lower demand would of course lower wages.
Most people find themselves repeating the same experience 10 times rather than having 10 years of different experience.
10 years ago I said that TEFL was a good career. Now, I think times have changed.
Oops...not really answering the OP's question. Can't be bothered to now.  |
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mcsam
Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 65
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to turn this topic on it's head if I may.
I gave up a financially rewarding job that I really enjoyed to become a TEFLer, and I LOVE it. That said I have only been in the "game" for 3 years. I really like the challenges that you have to face, finding a job with a reputable company/school, the trepidation of moving to a new country, learning some of the language etc.
To be fair I am in debt up to my ears which I never was before but, would I give it up............................certainly not for a while yet. Will let you know when I change my mind. |
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throwdownyourcrutches
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 36 Location: On the road to El Dorado
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: mcsam |
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| I am thinking of doing much the same thing soon. What countries have you worked in so far? |
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Zero
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 1402
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I did hear about a lady who did TEFL (some management I think) and eventually came back to the U.S. to work at a university as a study abroad coordinator. But overall, I would say TEFL ends up mainly as lost time -- to be regarded as neutral at best by future employers. |
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