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Evaluation for Foreign Experts in China
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ralph wiggim



Joined: 12 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to give kudos to my school. The fao just had a meeting last night to give us a prep class on how to successfully cheat on the exam. The school is concerned that the teachers will lose their jobs if we don't pass the exam.

So now all the fts in my school are full of crib notes and what we think are the actually answers to the exam.

So my school is ready!

Do you think there will be a posting in China Daily or maybe even a show on cctv9 that ranks what schools teachers did best?
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Neilhrd



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:49 am    Post subject: It exists Reply with quote

This is a new test which the Bureau of Foreign Experts Affairs in Beijing has dreamed up as part of the long expected post Olympics crackdown. It is currently being trialled by certain universities and recruiters. It is supposed to be part of the vetting process for applicants for 1st jobs in China. However some schools have got hold of copies and are also asking experienced teachers to take it.

It is a complete farce dreamed up by an 11year old with a first certificate in psychology. I was asked about it by a friend a while ago after he had been told by his university that he had to take it. The official website is vague and the English translation appalling. So to figure out more I entered false details about myself and took it online. After about 3 questions I couldn't stop laughing and just filled in the multiple choice parts at random. Then I just took the micky out of the writing part using as many long jargon words as I could think of not to waste my time. Guess what? I passed!

There are multiple versions selected by the computer at random for each applicant. So anytime you are bored and the bar is shut you could have an amusing evening dreaming up silly names to apply under and answers to really wind them up.
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North China Laowei



Joined: 08 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:02 am    Post subject: HOLD ON Reply with quote

Shan-Shan,

Thank you for your information and the site reference.

The site that you referred us to is completely misleading. So I did a DNS look-up on and some backdoor pings and the

the site belongs to a recruiter called www.chinajobs.com. JUST ANOTHER FRIG*ING recruiter who had the "bright" idea to come up with a test like to screen applicants.

Maybe it is being used in some places and maybe it is not being used in anothers -- but this is China and things are far from standard, up-to-and-including the much discussed FEC.

Let's not set off any kind of minor panics on this board...most of us had to weather the trials and tribulations of the Olymp*cs administrative regulations, so this is just one more item, still nascent, still not officially whatever and in the hands of a recruiter.

Additionally, my apologies to Arioch.

And no, Shan-Shan, read what it says. I took the online test. It is to be "used by future employers who check our database for suitable candidates".

The fact that this was "linked" off the SAFEA site means nothing. I would encourage everyone to go read the SAFEA site and see all the things that are linked off of it.


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Tsuris



Joined: 25 Mar 2008
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Location: Wasting My Life Away in China

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a search on Google and found a very interesting article with comments about the evaluation system appropriately titled Evaluation System for Foreign Language Expert.
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

\NCL
Quote:
Arioch, .....



Question Question Question


NCL, u been hitting tha sauce again? I haven't made any post on this thread, just reading in quiet amusement/astonishment


Don't know who u r paraphrasing, but it aint me
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Shan-Shan



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hunan Foreign Guy,

Sorry, but you are incorrect. The link in fact does lead to the "official" SAFEA foreign teacher multiple choice test, for what it's worth.
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ralph wiggim



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shan-Shan wrote:
Hunan Foreign Guy .


Which one of you is HFG?
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Ms Bean



Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. That WAS difficult.

"Is it culturally acceptable to hold chopstick [sic] with left hand?"

Depends upon which end of the round table you're sitting on.

"Is it warmer in the summer or in the socialist countryside?"

Equally warm

This was the killer for me:

Can you pass a test in Chinese history?

If I can swallow it, I can pass it.
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englishgibson



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
It is a complete farce dreamed up by an 11year old with a first certificate in psychology. I was asked about it by a friend a while ago after he had been told by his university that he had to take it. The official website is vague and the English translation appalling. So to figure out more I entered false details about myself and took it online. After about 3 questions I couldn't stop laughing and just filled in the multiple choice parts at random. Then I just took the micky out of the writing part using as many long jargon words as I could think of not to waste my time. Guess what? I passed!
that's hilarious Laughing Laughing Laughing


cheers and beers to our prep work to become experts in china Laughing Laughing Laughing
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ralph wiggim



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I can say is if you have a few minutes of your life to waste check this "test" out.

http://202.96.25.8/IntlHR/index.php
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Ms Bean



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last week I went through it. There was no test. It was merely a series of screens which asked for personal information.

So, for the experts who are in the know, know this: there is no test there.
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ralph wiggim



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ms Bean wrote:
Last week I went through it. There was no test. It was merely a series of screens which asked for personal information.

So, for the experts who are in the know, know this: there is no test there.


Once you register you can take the tests.

They are funny and... umm typical Chinese questions. Some of which most people will have no clue. Even educated types.
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Ms Bean



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I registered. There was no test. Sorry, bud.
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North China Laowei



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:57 am    Post subject: Not Correct Reply with quote

Ms Bean wrote:
I registered. There was no test. Sorry, bud.


Sorry Mrs. Bean but I registered and yes indeed there is an entire battery of tests as has been described here. This is a psychological aptitude test etc., etc. Nonetheless and regardless of what other posters have written, this is not an official "SAFEA" test by any means but an agency test a la 1950's employment tests in the United States. Read all of the links and information very carefully. Another canard.
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Ms Bean



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, bud. I registered, posted my resume in its entirety, uploaded all requested documents, and then attempted to access the tests.

Guess what?

Them there li'l buttons for the four tests don't work, Jimbo!

And I din't see yore resumee up thair nowhere!

Whuddya think a them beans, feller?
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