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Bedevilled · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:45 am Post subject:

Everything having been said, I hope you've got the info you were looking for. Welcome to Indo. When you get the chance, come take a trip up to North Sumatera. It's quite a different experience from Java... or from other parts of sumatera, for that matter. It's an amazing country with lots to offer. You can be rest assured that regardless of what experiences you get out of it, you won't have made the wrong choice to come.

guru · Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 156 Location: Indonesia

over optimistic!!!!! Well to tell you truth I worked at a language school for 2 years. I got paid about 2 and a half million rupiah a month! I was happy. The school was professional and it's still an excellent language school and a great experience. I'm now teaching at a national plus school and getting far less money than an international school, but far more than a language school. It's a great school, easier working load than the language school, and the students are fantastic. Why not be optimistic when things are so good!

The fact is that even we have problems getting staff here. Yes the wages are at least double that of language schools, but our school actively seeks qualified and experienced teachers(though unqualified teachers have worked here). My point is that there are plenty of jobs. Some like to rubbish the language schools because some teachers spend most of their time showing videos and doing computer lessons and games, others come to work drunk, etc, but the school I worked at and the teachers I met were professional. Language schools are a great expereince.
If you are interested in ESL as a career here, then I am optimistic because there are plenty of jobs teaching at national plus schools.

The people who do not agree with the information I have posted seem to be language teachers, who have not researched, nor even heard about national plus schools. The people who have private messaged me are interested teachers who are keen to try.

Bedevilled, I get all the love I want from my wonderful wife. Let me ask you if you are prepared to marry the person you sleep with?

Very Happy

Chester · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 383 Location: Australia

There are currently good jobs at a National Plus School? Name it and I will apply.

guru · Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 156 Location: Indonesia

* Sekolah Ciputra, Surabaya, Indonesia www.ciputra-sby.sch.id has a
vacancy which will commence in January 2005 in the Middle Primary area.
The school is authorized in the IB www.ibo.org. The position is working
within the IB PYP curriculum framework. The expat teacher works across
the 4 classes at the year level, generally working within the program of
enquiry (holistic, integrated approach, although Maths and English,
shared by the Indonesian and expatriate teacher at the year level, are
sometimes stand-alone.)

Go for it Chester!

The problem with jobs at National plus schools is knowing where they advertise. Sometimes they advertise in the Jakarta Post, other times from recruitment agencies. That's why I advise just to contact them.

The better paying schools require teacher qualification, though others actively seek qualified teachers, they often employ teachers without teaching credentials, i.e. B.Ed or Dip. Teach.

The job advertised above pays well!

Bedevilled · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:45 am Post subject:

not too sure why you feel the need to use this forum to take out your 'wonderful life' on everyone else that happens to hold a different opinion than your own. We are entitled to them. The people who come here are looking to get more than one perspective to be able to make an informed decision. Your experiences, perspectives and opinions are just as worthy as everyone else's, but don't go fooling yourself into thinking they are more so. So say what you've got to say. Leave it up to them to make up their own mind.

side note: wedding plans for next October (what does your comment have to do with this forum topic anyway... oh yeah, right ... me getting laid regularly... you in desperate need thereof).

Bedevilled · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:56 am Post subject:

i think i need new glasses... i read 'life' not wife. hmmmm. well maybe you should try a new position. Better likelyhood of dislodging whatever you've got up your arse.

guru · Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 156 Location: Indonesia

www.austembjak.or.id/aei/NationalPlusSchools.pdf

or

www.austembjak.or.id/aei/NationalPlusSchools.pdf+national+plus+schools+++indonesia&hl=en&start=9

There you go--- 25 National plus schools, their email address and details.

I am not an agent. I can't lead you by the hand. There they are! If you are serious about applying you have the resources to do so. If you are not up to scratch as a teacher, then forget it!

Bedevilled, this is not a forum on gay issues. If you wish to talk about those kinds of things then there are plenty other forums to choose from. Sex is a completely different issue than teaching. Whether you are bisexual, metrosexual or just anal crazy, we do not want to know, Bedevilled.

I said it before I'll say it again, you do not know what you are talking about. Your comments on international plus schools, your assertion that ESL jobs do not pay more than 12 million rupiah, and your misreadings of posts are proof.

Joachim · Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 311 Location: Brighton, UK

That's right guru, when all else fails, resort to homophobia.

Nice.

guru · Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 156 Location: Indonesia

Getting back to the post of jobs......

Jakarta Post Saturday 9 October page 16

Native English Teachers (Net)
Experienced and qualified ESL teachers familiar with Asian educational environments are required to join a team of NETs to prepare Year 10-12 students for university entrance.

The above positions are based in Jakarta and Bandung.
All applications must have teaching qualifications with English as a major and/or ESL certification. Attractive remuneration package.

interested parties are invited to forward applications with CV details to:

Head of General affairs
UPI
PO Box 1083 Jakarta 11010 Code BPK
or email to : [email protected]

Bedevilled · Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:47 am Post subject:

Hate to burst your bubble guru, but I'm female.

And that's not actually what I wrote, but if you want to twist it around to serve your delusions of forum grandeur... go right ahead. You do realize you're pathetic, don't you.

phis · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 250

Dear Guru

Can you help me out with the answer to some questions, because I am getting more and more confused by your posts? Please excuse me, but not being a National Plus teacher, I am a little dimwitted and slow to see the light.

drgonzo · Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 82

Do you people have nothing better to do than go on and on -- beating a dead horse?
I am equally as tired of Guru's postings as I am with Bedevilled and Phis', but unfortunatly I still check this posting to see if any good information comes from it. At least Guru gives some useful links and contact information, which is the only useful piece of info I got from here.

You know what they say:
Argueing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics. Even if you win you are still disabled.

phis · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 250

Well said drgonzo. I am sidling off into the sunset ..., looking for something more interesting to do. Mind you, the forums would get a tad boring if nobody got carried away occasionally! Just as long as it doesn't get too abusive!

That's my last word on this, and any other subject on Dave's. Am going to start studying for a second degree. Just for fun, no career changes in mind. Which ain't bad for someone of my advanced age.

Good luck all.

guru · Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 156 Location: Indonesia

Many people who work at language schools are professional and able. I've said that before. Some language schools are quite professional. Many people work at language schools and not for the money (like me).

If you'd like me to answer any questions, maybe it's better private messaging or ask via my email.

i'm glad I helped some.

BTW i just saw this posting

Cushy jobs at British Council Jakarta

Salary
GBP12,600 - GBP15,600 per annum
DINAS visa - semi-diplomatic. This exempts us from paying any tax on income

40 days holiday

Basically, if you're making someone rich at a private language school, you'll be amazed at the perks.

Usual qualifications apply: CELTA + 2 years minumum, able to talk ******** for 30 minutes during a telephone interview.

I'd love to apply but work with this lot elsewhere. Highly recommended, check out

https://trs.britishcouncil.org/internetSSL/indexmain.html