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Belgrove · Joined: 27 Sep 2011 Posts: 35 Location: Saigon

If you have a Work Permit then go to Nguyen Du, get the residence card papers (6000vnd, and in a very nice green folder which explains what you need to enclose) get them completed, sorted, stamped and signed.

Take them back to the office, get a ticket, wait 30 minutes, get them checked, get a piece of paper with the date to collect your brand new mysterious Temporary Residence Card then walk outside, cross the road, collect your bike, drive off and I'm sorry I can't make it any plainer.

Five days max!

What's confusing about that?

It works exactly the same in Hanoi.

If you're leaving that simple task in someone's hands then it's up to you. It just seems whenever I leave something to be done for me in someone else's hands it all goes pear shaped.

deadlift · Joined: 08 Jun 2010 Posts: 267

Belgrove · Joined: 27 Sep 2011 Posts: 35 Location: Saigon

Just noel wrote:

Mattingly · Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Posts: 249

Obtaining the residence permit has been difficult and complicated for many.

Many people with work permits do not have residency cards.

4 wps for 4 part-time jobs?

How long would that take? How expensive would that be?

The entire WP issue is still a mess.

generalgiap · Joined: 03 Sep 2011 Posts: 95

I doubt that a school would get a work permit for a part-time teacher. But it depends on the school and if the teacher is interested in paying for part or all of the WP and RC. Therefore, if one has 4 part-time jobs, it's highly likely that one is unqualified and can't get the WP and works for cowboy outfits. May have also burned their bridges etc etc.

In addition, I have many friends in both HCMC and Hanoi who are married to Vietnamese national and have the 5 year visa, it is not connected to the WP. They have to go to the immigration dept every 3 months pay 10 usd, finished.

So, how many teachers have 4 part-time jobs? and/or have the quals etc to obtain a WP? How many foreigners who are married to Vietnamese have to leave every 90 days? Let's deal with reality and stop the distortions.

This post is not intended to offend anyone, only to provide readers with the real situation.

Belgrove · Joined: 27 Sep 2011 Posts: 35 Location: Saigon

400 000 for the WP
693 000 for the national advertising (new cost introduced in August 2011 Decree 46, article 4)
33 000 for local advertising
You should retain all your translations for re-use.
If your health check is out of date or your police check is out of date then they must be refreshed.
100 000 police check
900 000 new health check (recent price Cho Ray)

So assuming 4 jobs four WP's within six months we're talking 4 x 1126000 which gives us 4 504 000 which equates to $216 approx.

Looking at different times, some in some outside the six months, we have different permutations. But for the sake of clarity in this reply let's assume a new police check and a new health check each WP.
Our new figure would be 4 x 2126000 which gives us 8504000 which equates to approx $408.

If we have different numbers of jobs we would use a different primary multiplier so as an example if we had 14 jobs we would multiply everything by 14.

The good news is, you only need one valid Residence Card sponsored by a current employer.

I hope this helps.

Belgrove · Joined: 27 Sep 2011 Posts: 35 Location: Saigon

generalgiap says:

generalgiap · Joined: 03 Sep 2011 Posts: 95

I wrote

Belgrove · Joined: 27 Sep 2011 Posts: 35 Location: Saigon

1st Sgt Welsh · Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:59 am Post subject:

Belgrove, you mentioned the process for getting the residency card in Saigon "works exactly the same in Hanoi". This statement happens to contradict my own personal experience and that of the people I knew when I was living there. My understanding is that it is damn near impossible to get a residency card in Hanoi. Having said that, I guess anything is possible, and my information may be out-of-date as I haven't been in Hanoi for about a year. Just out of interest, have you actually lived in Hanoi and done it yourself?

LettersAthruZ · Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Posts: 466 Location: North Viet Nam

Belgrove · Joined: 27 Sep 2011 Posts: 35 Location: Saigon

Apollo Hanoi 2005-2006 plus two other part-time jobs. In fact, everything was easier there than in HCM at that time.

LettersAthruZ · Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Posts: 466 Location: North Viet Nam

generalgiap · Joined: 03 Sep 2011 Posts: 95

I am very aware that Hanoi is a different than HCMC. In fact, I consider it a different country. However, generally it's the same issues regarding the Vietnamese people in both the north and south, it's just more pronounced in the north. For example, the Vietnamese are indirect communicators, they also withhold information for thier own benefit, sometimes cheat foreigners and other Vietnamese, loss of face is an issue, generally not very open to new ideas, focus on the short term not long term govt officials can be difficult to deal with etc etc.

In fact, when I have to travel to Hanoi, I find it quite interesting to see these differences. But the interesting part tends to fade quickly and can't wait to get back to HCMC!

Regarding obtaining WP and RP, of course it's more difficult to obtain in Hanoi based on logic and common sense. However, if one gets the WP
in Hanoi, it's nothing but rubbish to state that they have to fly out of Vietnam extend their visa during the duration of the WP.

Regarding obtaining the RP in Hanoi, I believe the Sergeant that it is difficult for teachers.

A-Z, not to be disrespectful, but I have read your posts and I hear the same thing over and over again but you have done nothing about it.
I have no sympathy. Let me give you some free advice, first move to HCMC, if you can't do that, fly to HCMC, get the WP and the RC from by working at a reputable school or through other ways. After that, fly back to Hanoi and live happily there after with your new 2-3 year RP.