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Q for those of you married to foreigners
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What language is spoken in your home?
English
45%
 45%  [ 19 ]
Their native language
11%
 11%  [ 5 ]
A language that is foreign to us both
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
A combination of the above
38%
 38%  [ 16 ]
Total Votes : 42

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spiral78



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, I see - thanks for the clarification!
Maybe the more relevant distinction in my context is 'big' versus 'small.' I can see that prestige is an entirely different (and probably much more sensitive) aspect to consider.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe prestige has to do with the context you're in, otherwise every language would be a prestige language. Czech would not be a prestige language outside of Europe. Some languages are more universal and of course have prestige anywhere (English, French, German...).
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy By this (useful) definition, Czech isn't a prestige language within Europe, either, only within the borders of the Czech Rep, and possibly Slovakia!

That's probably why I ranked it in 'non-prestigous' in my initial posting on the subject.

I wonder if Melee's talking about dialects or codes or something when she discusses prestige and lack of it in the speakers in Mexico. Would those non-prestigious utterances be considered officially a different language altogether?
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mexico is the home to more than 52 different languages. Many of which do have various dialects, but in no way shape or form are the same as Spanish. Monoligual speakers of these languages can not understand Spanish is the slightest. They are as much a different language from Spanish as Chinese is. Rolling Eyes

Czech is a national langauge there for holds linguistic prestige. Maybe Mexico is too foriegn of an example to be easily grasped. How about Ireland. English vs. Gaelic. Gaelic lacks the prestige of English. While it has been somewhat successfully revived--in comparison to other endangered languages of the world. It still struggles for it's lack of prestige.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I believe prestige has to do with the context you're in, otherwise every language would be a prestige language.


I'm not sure about this. The prestige of indigenous languages in Ecuador is low- even amongst people who speak them. I have many times met Quichua speaking parents who don't want their children to grow up speaking Quichua. It's sad, but I understand how racism can infect the minds of the victims. (In most cases, they've been spit on for being, and speaking, Quichua all their lives, and without overly sophisticated analysis, they don't want their kids to get spit on.)


Best,
justin
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife is Canadian. A few months ago I took her down the local in Scotland...... She had problems understanding the locals and vice versa.


Next week I'm off to Canada and I have every confidence in my ability to communicate in a foreign language. Wink
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If not I'll get them to buy me beer.


Drunk..... it's an international language
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miski



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kids speak Arabic with Dad and English with me. We speak a mixture when all together......sometimes kids speak half sentences in English and Aabic or put Arabic gender endings on English words , which is quite amusing!
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misterkodak



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I speak German with my wife (mainly) but also English and Turkish. Although she's Turkish, German is the dominant language in our relationship. With my oldest daughter ... English. Nothing more. She prefers it this way, somehow. She's a foreign language (Mandarin Chinese) student in college now. My smallest daughter and I speak English and Turkish. It's amazing how much German she has picked up just by being around us and hearing it spoken and having her cousins who come from Germany in the summer to practice with.
Somehow, I think it would be boring if we only spoke English all the time. I do that enough at work. Smile
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

misterkodak wrote:
I speak German with my wife (mainly) but also English and Turkish. Although she's Turkish, German is the dominant language in our relationship. With my oldest daughter ... English. Nothing more. She prefers it this way, somehow. She's a foreign language (Mandarin Chinese) student in college now.


If you don't mind me asking, how did German became the language tht you speak? Why not Turkish?
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misterkodak



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We both grew up in Germany. My wife's father worked there for 30 years. I grew up there as a military brat. My BA is in German Lang. and Lit.
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TwinCentre



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile
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Teatime of Soul



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We speak binary.

Unless we are telling a joke, then we speak LISP programming language.

Things just sound funnier in LISP.
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