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johnslat
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Dear Sasha,
"And since when is C1 possible without a doubt only after a long stay in immersion?"
Since the introduction of the newest methodology, The Water-boarding Technique, designed and perfected by the CIA to draw out reluctant speakers and make them extremely loquacious, garrulous even.
I'm surprised you're not up on the latest.
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John |
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Cool Teacher
Joined: 18 May 2009
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Location: Here, There and Everywhere! :D
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
Dear Johnslat
I am glad to be of service to you, as always. However, I am not sure about your sources there, or the levels described.
B1+ - B2 loosely corresponds to Intermediate and Upper-Intermediate level
C1 ia Advanced
C2 is Very Advanced
At least that is the descriptor from this course book series, English Unlimited:http://www.cambridge.org/servlet/file/Intermediate+CEF+map.pdf?ITEM_ENT_ID=6452717&COLLSPEC_ENT_ID=7
You can also check out the CEFR/EAQUALS descriptors here. The language used to describe learner abilities is much more precise than in your source:
http://www.coe.int/t/dg4/education/elp/elp-reg/Source/Key_reference/EAQUALSBank_levels_EN.pdf
With Communist greetings
Sasha |
Hey! I use that with my evening students! 
I'm not comepletly satisfied though... 
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| johnslat wrote: |
Dear Sasha,
"And since when is C1 possible without a doubt only after a long stay in immersion?"
Since the introduction of the newest methodology, The Water-boarding Technique, designed and perfected by the CIA to draw out reluctant speakers and make them extremely loquacious, garrulous even.
I'm surprised you're not up on the latest.
Regards,
John |
Dear Johnslat
Nothing cutting edge there. Fascist pigs have always claimed "dey half vays auf making you tok". We Communists are far more genteel. Sleep deprivation makes even the most stubborn sing. Any old TOEFL cd on repeat and piped into the cells does the trick fairly fast.
Up on the latest! Ha!
With Communist greetings
Sasha |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Sha\asha,
Ah, but sleep-deprivation won't work in my classes, where all the students begin nodding off after the first few minutes.
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John |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Dear Johnslat
That maybe because they can't understand why they are in an Advanced class when they don't even know basic structures : ) I'd tune out right away too...
Stick on TOEFL disc. Torture them gently. They'll speak soon enough. They'll confess to anything, even to loving Big Brother
With Communist greetings
Sasha |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Sasha,
I'm not so sure I'd describe being able to use all the verb tenses correctly with just an occasional mistake (which they immediately auto-correct) as "basic structures."
Discs??? Good heavens, Sasha - we're not THAT "Advanced." We use chisels and rocks. But the admin has promised that we 'll get papyrus and goose-quills soon.
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John |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Johnslat
Then come and join us, friend, in tomorrow's Utopia today!
With Communist greetings
Sasha |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Sasha,
Thanks for the kind invitation. I'm afraid, though, that I won't be Russian over there. As Joe (AKA wonderingjoesmith) pointed out on the Degraded Language and the End of Empire thread in the Current Events forum, my work here in the States is still desperately needed.
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John |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Johnslat
The invitation is an open one. Just like our blissful society. Join us after you have educated your homeland. We can send technical advisors to help if you want. Help you to set up local soviets and organize referenda etc.
All is possible. The future is ours!
Hic!
Sasha |
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