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mr.cheeks



Joined: 16 Sep 2010
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Location: Phnom Penh

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:55 pm    Post subject: My past haunts me..... Reply with quote

Hello, i have been teaching English in Thailand for around 3 years and have saved up enough money to go to Prague and do my TEFL course.

After booking the course however i have now found out that having a couple of minor convictions (Affray - Community Service and Criminal Damage - Fine) may rule me out to work at all in the Czech Republic. Obviously a criminal records check was never asked for in Thailand so i'm pretty peeved to have just learnt this.

Are there any countries in the region where i may still be able to find work?

My convictions were from 7 and 9 years ago. I have really enjoyed my teaching experience and would like to continue in central and eastern Europe.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might take a look at this recent thread: "What countries do/don't do background checks?" http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=107098
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mr.cheeks



Joined: 16 Sep 2010
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Location: Phnom Penh

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, yeah, i was just reading that thread. My question is more specific to central and eastern Europe, just wondering if anyone can share their experiences? Are they strict in asking for background checks in Slovakia, Slovenia etc
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mr.cheeks



Joined: 16 Sep 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, where would they want a criminal records check from? Thailand? I am from the UK originally, but i haven't been there for years!

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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try the General Europe forum for better responses.
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desertdawg



Joined: 14 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:30 am    Post subject: My past haunts me Reply with quote

In the UK there are spent convictions where the slate is wiped clean after seven years.

Try and check with the UK police authorities. There are also two types of checks. One that shows spent convictions and another which doesn't. Again the UK police would be your best source of info.

Good luck!
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mr.cheeks



Joined: 16 Sep 2010
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Location: Phnom Penh

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have more than one conviction, i believe they ALL stay on your record. In certain countries it seems that schools will consider your case individually. Am i right in thinking that teachers with any sort of criminal history will NOT be able to find work in central/eastern Europe? Is there still a chance that i may not be asked for my background check in countries like Czech Republic? Where will they want my check from? The local police of my home town? Or the police in the country in which i have been living for the last few years?

Thanks again for your guidance.
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suphanburi



Joined: 20 Mar 2014
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my personal experience, they have always wanted it from your country of passport.

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jonniboy



Joined: 18 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on your nationality. If you have an EU passport, I think it's very unlikely that most countries in central or eastern Europe will bother to do background checks.
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3701 W.119th



Joined: 26 Feb 2014
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Location: Central China

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a UK passport holder, you should request a criminal background check from disclosurescotland.co.uk (costs £25, very easy to do). It only lists unspent convictions.

Timescales for a conviction to be considered 'spent':

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Imprisonment: 2½ years or more – Never

Preventative detention – Never

Detention for life at Her Majesties Pleasure - Never

Imprisonment: less than 2½ years but more than 6 months – 10 years

Imprisonment: less than 6 months – 7 years

Fines – 5 years

Armed Forces: dismissal with disgrace – 10 years

Armed Forces: dismissal – 7 years

Armed Forces: detention re conviction – 5 years

Borstal – 7 years

Detention: less than 2½ years but more than 6 months – 5 years

Detention: less than 6 months – 3 years

Probation – 5 years

Mental Health Act Hospital Order – 2 years post cessation of order or 5 years, whichever is the longer

Absolute discharge – 6 months

Conditional discharge – 1 year post conviction or 1 year post cessation of order, whichever is the longer

Probation order - 1 year post conviction or 1 year post cessation of order, whichever is the longer

Binding over - 1 year post conviction or 1 year post cessation of order, whichever is the longer

Care order - 1 year post conviction or 1 year post cessation of order, whichever is the longer

Supervision order - 1 year post conviction or 1 year post cessation of order, whichever is the longer

Disqualification – the period of disqualification
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Archie Rice



Joined: 13 Feb 2013
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't worry. I've been working in Central Europe for the last three years and never once have I been asked about this stuff. Maybe they have checked without me knowing (I have a clean record) but honestly I would bet my imaginary mortgage that they haven't.

As long as you are presentable and professional and a capable teacher they aren't remotely interested in your past.
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