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Do you catch yourself saying this?

 
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Ben Round de Bloc



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:29 pm    Post subject: Do you catch yourself saying this? Reply with quote

After spending lots of time as an EFL teacher, do you ever catch yourself using non-standard English (often false cognates) that you've picked up from your students and/or non-native English-speaking fellow teachers?

Here are some common ones that the few of us native English-speaking teachers where I work have noticed ourselves using from time to time:

- present an exam instead of take an exam
Students will present their midterm exams next week.
- pass the list instead of take attendance
Most teachers pass the list at the beginning of each class.
- faltas instead of absences
If you have too many faltas, you won't be allowed to present the final exam.
- assist instead of attend
I have to go now. I have a meeting to assist.
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saraswati



Joined: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 200

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ben!
Yes, I find myself doing that quite often.

Here's another situation. How many, especially those who have lived her quite a while, find that when trying to think of a synonym for a word, what first pops into your mind is the same word but in Spanish? [/b]
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 2583
Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as bad English, I've completely picked up in the night.

I also say things like "We're gonna tener a party next week." Usually I wouldn't even notice it except for the strang looks people are giving me.

But my all time favorite was when my former boss called and extordinary meeting for those planning on attending an upcoming conference.
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thelmadatter



Joined: 31 Mar 2003
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Location: in el Distrito Federal x fin!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:49 pm    Post subject: words Reply with quote

Oh yes, faltas, bitacoras, and carrera/career for major.

They also have this habit here of calling female teachers "Miss + first name" in stead of title and surname. I fought it the first semester but surrendered this semester.
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angelacaruso



Joined: 21 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:01 am    Post subject: i def have caught myself doing that Reply with quote

I have a mexican boyfriend as well and i catch myself saying things like him such as, " I dont feel to do certain things ( emotionally speaking) or I have used Razz the word ganas in english sentences, this happens when we don't really have a direct translation for certain words!
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chula



Joined: 11 Nov 2003
Posts: 65
Location: Culiac�n, Sinaloa, M�xico

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I've been feeling a little disubicated lately too.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 9650
Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:45 am    Post subject: Spanglish Reply with quote

I ginf myself using the verb to pass a lot more now in English, such as "I'll pass for your house later" or "We're going to pass a good time'. Some friends pointed that out last time I went back home to Canada, which I've also started to pronounce now as ca-na-DA.

The funniest I hear are Chicanos...Mexican Americans from Southern Cal...great vocabulary. Watchear, parkear...
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annabelinda



Joined: 04 Feb 2004
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a Brit that now takes a shower rather than has one, passes for friends rather than picks them up at their houses and (this is one is really slack) regularly ends sentences with "....., no?" Terrible, no?
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hooshootoo



Joined: 27 May 2004
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Location: Louisiana

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a French Creole from Louisiana. I write in Standard English and actually use it when north of the Red River. However, as soon as I get home to South Louisiana, I "pass a good time," invite people to pass my house and "get down," and actually found myself teaching a grandchild to ALWAYS be "polite" by asking everyone he meets "hows ya mama-n-em?" One of my best friends is a linguist. She says that Standard English is the language of the international marketplace and must be used outside of our ethnic communities. However, it would be incorrect for me to insist on Standard English in my French community. I sure am glad because I do love to "pass a good time." Smile
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thelmadatter



Joined: 31 Mar 2003
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Location: in el Distrito Federal x fin!

PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 3:31 pm    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

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One of my best friends is a linguist. She says that Standard English is the language of the international marketplace and must be used outside of our ethnic communities. However, it would be incorrect for me to insist on Standard English in my French community. I sure am glad because I do love to "pass a good time."


Hear hear .... I agree with your friend (and this quote thingy really DOES work!). I respect Standard English -- it is useful. But Ill never give up my "Joisey English" completely!
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