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Saudi4Ever · Joined: 25 Mar 2004 Posts: 135

Okay, we can all argue day and night on what is or isn't considered terrorism, but what's the point. I think that what we really should be concerned with as people living in or interested in living and working in KSA is what is the Islamic position on this. I mean what Bush or Bin Ladin have to say does not make it true. we should go to the source. I have fold an interesting link.

johnslat · Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:40 pm Post subject: Fat chance

Dear Saudi4Ever,
OK, what's the big idea, trying to introduce reason on this forum? But I'm not really worried; it'll never catch on.
Regards,
John

Bindair Dundat · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 1123

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

"The Islamic Position" ? You are suggesting that there is only one.

The enemies of modernity and reasonable Islam would have us believe that there is one truth. Truth is not so simple. There are many truths and many points of view.

Those guys who go around slitting throats and waging war on the rest of humanity are evil.

usool · Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 147

waging war on the rest of humanity are evil

I assume this is referring to the Americans who have bombed countless countries since the Second world war???

Bindair Dundat · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 1123

usool · Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 147

didnt the Nazis rebuild Germany before the Brits bombed it to smithoreens?

Hector_Lector · Joined: 20 Apr 2004 Posts: 548

Islamic position on terror?

In the cockpit?

In the driver�s seat?

Under a rock?

Hector_Lector · Joined: 20 Apr 2004 Posts: 548

In the c-o-c-k-pit?

johnslat · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:49 pm Post subject:

For your edification, seeing as how some posters seem to identity
Islam with Terrorism:

http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm

http://www.maat.r8.org/

http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm

http://www.proislam.com/articles_repudiate%20hate.htm

http://www.pluralism.org/news/index.php?xref=Muslims+Reach+Out&sort=ASC

http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm

Hey, I could go on and on and on - but this should give you some idea.
To condemn Islam for the actions of some murderous, misguided whackos is ludicrous. Hey, lets condemn Catholicism and Protestanism for what went on in Northern Ireland for so many bloody years.
Regards,
John

Bindair Dundat · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 1123

johnslat · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:01 pm Post subject:

Dear Bindair Dundat,
Actually, I think it's others who are "going a little too far". Except that it's not "a little"; it's a lot. The ideals and precepts of every religion have been misconstrued and even perverted throughout history by zealous whackos who think they alone have a direct line to the Almighty and that anyone who disagrees with their interpretation must either recant his/her beliefs or die. But while such extremist fanatics claim to speak in the name of a religion, they no more do so than, say, the Unabomber's manifesto and actions were truly representative of the conservation movement.
Personally I'm a Deist, but I've known many, many Muslims whose beliefs and actions I admire greatly. These are, in my opinion, the real holders and upholders of Islam. And to tell you the truth, I'm getting more than a little tired of hearing and seeing the whole of Islam besmirched by the actions of a very small minority of demented idiots.
Regards,
John

ntropy · Joined: 11 Oct 2003 Posts: 671 Location: ghurba

I agree, John. In my years on the Arabian peninsula I met some simply fantastic Islamic men and women whose faith was a great source of strength for them and who wer simply wonderful humanitarians. I count myself lucky to know them and learn from them.

Fundamentalists are the problem (Beware the Man of One Book), not any single religion, and they exist everywhere and in all institutions, religious and non-religiious.

Cleopatra · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:26 pm Post subject:

Just want to say I agree with the last two posts: well-said.

Hector_Lector · Joined: 20 Apr 2004 Posts: 548

An American man being held hostage by al-Qaida in Saudi Arabia has been beheaded, unconfirmed reports said today.
The kidnappers of engineer Paul Johnson, 49, had threatened to kill him today if the kingdom did not release al-Qaida prisoners.

As the deadline approached, thousands of Saudi security officers backed by FBI agents were scouring the capital Riyadh for the hostage, while his family pleaded for his life.

Then at around 6.30pm BST reports began to emerge that al-Qaida had carried out its threat. The Arab satellite network Al-Arabiya had the first report that Mr Johnson had been beheaded.

Shortly later Reuters reported that the al Islah Islamist website claimed he had been killed and had a statement apparently from his kidnappers as well as photographs apparently showing his severed head.

A message on the site purportedly from the kidnappers said: "As we promised the mujahideen, we have beheaded the American hostage Paul Marshall after the deadline that the mujahideen gave to the tyrannical Saudi government passed".

The statement was signed by the 'Organisation of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula'.

Mr Johnson, an employee of the US defence corporation Lockheed Martin, was kidnapped last Saturday. He had worked in Saudi Arabia for 10 years.

In a video tape of Mr Johnson released on Tuesday night, the kidnappers said they would kill him in three days unless the Saudi government released all the militants in its prisons. The Saudis rejected the demand. Washington said it would use every appropriate resource to gain Johnson's release but would make no concessions.