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Banner41
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| All Spam links....move on. Nothing to see here. |
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3701 W.119th
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Yahoo Answers as a source?
Tremendous. |
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Big Worm
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I have a "good" source that says subject teachers (not esl) will now need a teaching cert (B.ed pgce, etc) and five years teaching experience to get a visa teaching a subject. My source is the administration (chinese and laowai) of a private hs who have confirmed this with the local psb.
Am interested what this will do to salaries. Possible a lot of subject teachers that don't qualify will move on. Hopefully I will make a ton more kuai next year. |
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toteach
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| Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Big Worm wrote: |
I have a "good" source that says subject teachers (not esl) will now need a teaching cert (B.ed pgce, etc) and five years teaching experience to get a visa teaching a subject. My source is the administration (chinese and laowai) of a private hs who have confirmed this with the local psb.
Am interested what this will do to salaries. Possible a lot of subject teachers that don't qualify will move on. Hopefully I will make a ton more kuai next year. |
Any idea is this is a provincial law or if it'll be for the country? (GREAT news!!) |
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asiannationmc
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| I have a "good" source that says subject teachers (not esl) will now need a teaching cert (B.ed pgce, etc) and five years teaching experience to get a visa teaching a subject. My source is the administration (chinese and laowai) of a private hs who have confirmed this with the local psb. |
This is my understanding in Beijing as well.
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| Am interested what this will do to salaries. Possible a lot of subject teachers that don't qualify will move on. Hopefully I will make a ton more kuai next year. |
I fear it will do little as the qualified who make the bucks are already in international programs and those in franchise programs (English teachers) are now in many cases being hired by Chinese admin. Overseas uni's don't really want to pay more to those who are in partial programs here and if a raise is coming it is a little way down the pike. In anticipation of this, the university I worked for has turned over its hiring to the Chinese uni it has an agreement with and all subject classes will be taught by Chinese who are skilled at English. One reason I have left their employ was simply I see the gravy train ending. i would hope that all qualified teacher would finely get their due but education as a career is fraught with cost cutting measures disguise as regulations or requirements. So far those already in those positions may not have to provide proof of certs. or qualified licenses. |
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Bud Powell
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| Big Worm wrote: |
| I have a "good" source that says subject teachers (not esl) will now need a teaching cert (B.ed pgce, etc) and five years teaching experience to get a visa teaching a subject. |
To teach middle and secondary school, right? I can't see how certification could benefit someone with masters degrees who teaches in a university. |
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mickeyrex
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Police Certificate (For Beijing Now & Shanghai Soon)
-What police certificate would be acceptable from the USA? I've worked in Beijing and Guangdong province before and didn't need one. My previous FBI CRC wasn't used is now outdated. Would a state one work because the FBI one can take from 1-3 months. |
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toteach
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| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| mickeyrex wrote: |
Police Certificate (For Beijing Now & Shanghai Soon)
-What police certificate would be acceptable from the USA? I've worked in Beijing and Guangdong province before and didn't need one. My previous FBI CRC wasn't used is now outdated. Would a state one work because the FBI one can take from 1-3 months. |
To get into Jiangsu, I only needed one from my county police department. They issued a "citizen of good standing" statement on letterhead. Then I had them throw on a couple of stamps for good measure... Worked just fine |
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litterascriptor
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| Wasn't AP Trueblue's big thing? He never did confirm if he was Anthony DiMarco or not. |
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Scrabble King
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Scrabble King
Joined: 25 Dec 2014
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| mickeyrex wrote: |
Police Certificate (For Beijing Now & Shanghai Soon)
-What police certificate would be acceptable from the USA? I've worked in Beijing and Guangdong province before and didn't need one. My previous FBI CRC wasn't used is now outdated. Would a state one work because the FBI one can take from 1-3 months. |
You can get a police certificate from any of the following in the U.S. and Canada (not sure about Europe):
* State or Provincial Police
* FBI or RCMP
* Large City Police Departments
* County & Parish Police Departments
At present the Chinese Beijing schools don't seem to care much about the source, so long as they have proof in their files if the PSB comes a knocking on their door. |
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nomad soul
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| Strange how someone deleted my OP... |
Not "someone"---the Moderators deleted it and they've locked and/or deleted a couple of threads due to your posts. Multiple postings with the same info and spamming the Cafe forums with links to outside blogs/forums ad nauseam are a big no-no per the forum rules. |
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Scrabble King
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| Scrabble King wrote: |
| Strange how someone deleted my OP... |
Not "someone"---the Moderators deleted it and they've locked and/or deleted a couple of threads due to your posts. Multiple postings with the same info and spamming the Cafe forums with links to outside blogs/forums ad nauseam are a big no-no per the forum rules. |
I'm glad you raised this subject because you had erroneously claimed I posted the 15 Employee Rights of foreign teachers in China 15 times. That was blatant lie. In fact, until yesterday NOBODY had posted more than 7 of the rights and after I went to the National Library to research this and the procedures of the China Arbitration Board, is when I found and posted all 15 of the Employee Rights and posted them - exactly ONCE at this link.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=109575
So do you have some legitimate reason for not wanting teachers to know all 15 of their rights Nomad Soul? And why should anyone want to hide the official 2015 foreign teacher requirements? They were correctly stated direct from the SAFEA web site. |
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Bud Powell
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| "...and after I went to the National Library to research this and the procedures of the China Arbitration Board..." |
How do you find the time to teach? |
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nomad soul
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