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senor boogie woogie

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Posts: 676 Location: Beautiful Hangzhou China
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:57 am Post subject: The correct name of my country. |
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Hola!
The correct name of my country is The United States of America. The United States or plain America is fine.
Why do people say "The States". As in, "Where are you from?" "The states". I absolutely cringe when I hear this. Which state? Should we call Canada "The Provinces"? It always seems that very annoying people say this.
Say United States and/or America, OK? Saying "the states" only shows stupidity.
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Ouch!!! I guess I must be stupid, then. To non-native speakers, I often say "America," but to natives, I often use "the States."
Why do I say "The States"? Because it's shorter/easier than "The United States (of America)." And some people object to "America" because it sounds like we think we control both continents.
I've never had anyone misunderstand me or get offended before when I've told them that I'm from the States.
Yours in eternal stupidity,
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skeptic
Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 73 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:08 am Post subject: |
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Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Wrong.
It's only properly termed, "The GOOD OLE US of A!" Anything less is a misnomer.  |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:30 am Post subject: Re: The correct name of my country. |
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senor boogie woogie wrote: |
do people say "The States". As in, "Where are you from?" "The states". I absolutely cringe when I hear this. Which state? Should we call Canada "The Provinces"? It always seems that very annoying people say this. |
People say that because "The States" is (yes, I'm using singular) so big and so powerful that everyone knows what country we are talking about.
Why cringe? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:03 am Post subject: |
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senor,
I cringe when I hear "America". That name should be reserved to North America, Central America, or South America, don't you think?
I still use it when speaking to Japanese people. It's a cultural thing. They get confused whenever I say United States or The States. Go with the flow. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:11 am Post subject: |
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As a Canadian from Ontario where pretty much everybody calls your country "the States" or "the US", I find your posting to be more than a little insulting. I don't post that I have a problem with the way people from the States have a tendancy to say something like "Kyaen-uh-duh" instead of "Canada" even though it's actually a pretty common thing to laugh at while you're sitting around on the patio drinking beers.
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The reason you can't call Canada "the Provinces" is that 1. There are actually provinces AND territories, so it wouldn't be accurate and 2. My country has a proper name, as opposed to a description. If we were called "The Unified Provinces and Territories of Northern North America", or UPTNNA probably it would get shortened. Maybe it would be shortened to "North America". Then people could say "In Ottawa, the capital city of North America, people eat poutine". That wouldn't be confusing at all. |
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zaneth
Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 545 Location: Between Russia and Germany
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:32 am Post subject: |
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There are better things to cringe at. I will continue to use "the states" whenever I feel like it. It seems clear, unambiguous, and accurate enough to me. |
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desultude

Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 614
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:11 am Post subject: |
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The States it is for me too. That's where I'm from. I'm also from American, but so are Canadians and Mexicans.
I usually say "Miami", actually, and most people understand what I mean, and many have some idea about me from that. |
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Roger
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:12 am Post subject: |
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I am not often in the same boat as SBW, but I do go along with him on this one.
"The States"??? Sounds very supercilious to me. WHich "States"? Isn't "US" already short for "USA"? Aren't t"States"? The "MExican States", for example?
Ditto when Germans refer to "the Federal Republic"; whose "federal Republic"? Oh, context gives it away... Yes, and the context of "The States" sounds a bit domineering to me. |
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Communist Smurf

Joined: 24 Jun 2003 Posts: 330 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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GambateBingBangBOOM wrote: |
The reason you can't call Canada "the Provinces" is that 1. There are actually provinces AND territories, so it wouldn't be accurate and 2. My country has a proper name, as opposed to a description. If we were called "The Unified Provinces and Territories of Northern North America", or UPTNNA probably it would get shortened. Maybe it would be shortened to "North America". Then people could say "In Ottawa, the capital city of North America, people eat poutine". That wouldn't be confusing at all. |
If you'd like to nit-pick, there are 47 states and 3 commonwealths. Commonwealths are MA, PA, and VA.
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'd always thought Americans were from the US. I've never heard anyone call us "Statesians" or "United Statesians".
It really is a God-foresaken dump, thginkradeht. So, with what you know, you don't ever have to go there. You will be sorely missed. |
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Well then, easy as pie, avoid the people. Don't go there. No one cares. |
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basiltherat
Joined: 04 Oct 2003 Posts: 952
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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A couple of related things that come to mind and somewhat amuse me especially when it comes from supposedly well-educated adults:
The numerous number of Britons who think New Mexico is in Mexico.
The number of Britons who think the English flag has blue on it
When foreign leaders (including those current and former from across the Atlantic) refer to Elizabeth as the Queen of England (only ??).
By the way, I didnt know that New York was 'the capital of the world' - as Guiliani (sic) was fond of saying.
Amusing !
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basil
As all pigs are animals so all English are Brits. As all animals are not pigs so all Brits are not English. |
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Basil,
There are also a number of folks from the United States who think New Mexico is in Mexico. For that reason New Mexico Magazine has had a feature for many years called "One of Our 50 Is Missing", in which some of the more foolish misplacements of the state are recounted each month. |
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SueH
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 1022 Location: Northern Italy
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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desultude wrote: |
The States it is for me too. That's where I'm from. I'm also from American, but so are Canadians and Mexicans.
I usually say "Miami", actually, and most people understand what I mean, and many have some idea about me from that. |
Er... is that Miami Ok, Miami Az or Miami Fla?
Sue
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