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REGIONAL COLLOCATIONS
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ak_tesl



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:40 am    Post subject: REGIONAL COLLOCATIONS Reply with quote

Everything here in the Czech Republic is "rich": its history, architecture, culture, cuisine, landscapes, art, music, traditions . . . everything except for my salary, naturally.

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moonraven



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think just the opposite--that a lament of bitterness could very well be caused by a life of want. That's what an impoverished African or Latin American might tell you.

Those mothers holding skeletal babies in Niger--you think they would be bitter if they had food? I don't.
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ak_tesl



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thread still stands

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Kent F. Kruhoeffer



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll admit it.



I had no idea Embarassed what a regional collocation was,

so I found this, which might boost your replies:



collocate

verb SPECIALIZED

(of words and phrases) to be used frequently together in a way that
sounds correct to people who have spoken the language all their lives,
but might not be expected from the meaning


collocation

noun SPECIALIZED

a word or phrase which is frequently used with another word or phrase,
in a way that sounds correct to people who have spoken the language all
their lives, but might not be expected from the meaning: In the phrase 'a hard frost',
'hard' is a collocation of 'frost' and 'strong' would not sound natural.

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sigmoid



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it used to be the phrase

"Amazing Thailand"

that was used to promote tourism.

Now they have

"Unseen Thailand".

People have made fun of both slogans.
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sigmoid



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another one that comes to mind is

Ho Chi Minh City being described as 'dynamic'. Laughing
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dmb



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Historical Istanbul. I guess you can't argue with that.
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31



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't if you live in Cihangir but if like most people in Istanbul you live in the suburbs you can.
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never heard of a hard frost--but a hard freeze is common usage.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonraven wrote:
Never heard of a hard frost--but a hard freeze is common usage.


Hard frost is common usage in the UK but then as a native American-are you really a native speaker?
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Racism alert!!!!!!!!!

The troll questions whether Native Americans from the US are native English speakers.
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Hector_Lector



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A moot point.

Similarly, are all Scottish or Welsh people (for example) native English speakers? A fair number grow up with Gaelic or Welsh as a first language.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must apologise. In the UK we really do know our frost and hard frost is in everyday usage. I realise that your English is excellent and knew that you were a Native American (is that still the correct term?) so I wasn't sure if you were a native speaker or not.

To conclude hard frost is the correct term for the kind of bitter frost you get in the Uk during the Autumn (Fall for you) and Winter and once again apologies for any misunderstanding.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Welsh are mostly native speakers but the Scotch are a bit like the native Americans and some of them have a lot of trouble expressing themselves. They often say things like ''have went'' and it is a shame really because they do have a good education system which we pay for.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
which we pay for.
So 31 how much have YOU contributed to the Scottish Education system?
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