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kelsey06



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:16 pm    Post subject: Don't have a degree Reply with quote

Okay! So, I am really excited to go overseas and I have a TESL certificated, and some experience coaching, tutoring and training crew members at work, however, [b]I do not have a degree![/u] Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I should begin looking for a job??[/u]
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are eligible for a working holiday visa, it might make a difference.
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The worlds a pretty big place- where are you interested in?

A lot of Latin America is posible sans degree, and I've heard that China can be done, though is not easy. (Gregor, where are you?)

Europe is extremely varied, and depends on getting the visa...

Where are you into?

Justin
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indonesia is open, as long as you are at least 25 years old.

Does Thailand require a degree? I think the answer is no...
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kelsey06



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I havn't looked into the holiday visa, maybe I'll have to do that! But yea, Thailand would be pretty cool; I'm not looking for anywhere in Europe or anything like that. I want to go to somewhere like china or something! That's be SO sweet! Very Happy If anyone knows somebody who taught English right after they finished High School, could you forward me their email address or something?
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acwilliams



Joined: 17 Feb 2006
Posts: 68
Location: Now in China, soon moving on

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kelsey06 wrote:
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If anyone knows somebody who taught English right after they finished High School


Kelsey, if you're not only degree-less but also under 21, then jobs in reputable schools will be very difficult to find.
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paulmanser



Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would just get a degree. Thats what I decided to do because I want to do this career in TEFL long-term.

You will need a degree anyway as a back up for other jbos should you hate TEFL after 3 years or more.

Degrees are needed for every TEFL position that I have seen online.
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ryandem



Joined: 24 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

China is not a problem without a degree. I have worked in China at a University and had no degree. They did not ask me for one, nor did I present them with one. It was probably the easiest job I have ever had. I also personally know many people who have taught in China without a degree.

Almost all jobs posted on the internet will say you need a degree, but when apply for the job, they will often not ask to see one.

I would suggest that you go ahead and apply for jobs and see what happens.

Good Luck!
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mlomker



Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

China and Thailand are pretty open without a degree. Check the subforums on China here on Dave's and head over to www.ajarn.com to get the best info on Thailand. Neither location pays all that great but you'll earn enough to live on. If you're looking to travel and have some adventure then that's the ticket.

If you enjoy it after a year then head back home and pursue a B.Ed. degree in English or ESL. They very best jobs are reserved for people who are licensed teachers in their home country. Most of us don't figure out what we want to do for a living until *after* we've done the bachelor's--you have a chance to do things right from the start.
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tedkarma



Joined: 17 May 2004
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Location: The World is my Oyster

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many people work in Thailand without degrees. Due to your age you will be more likely hired to work with younger learners - but many people prefer teaching kids anyway.
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mlomker wrote:

If you enjoy it after a year then head back home and pursue a B.Ed. degree in English or ESL. They very best jobs are reserved for people who are licensed teachers in their home country. Most of us don't figure out what we want to do for a living until *after* we've done the bachelor's--you have a chance to do things right from the start.


You may want to also add a masters degree. I think my masters will/has helped me more than a BEd would. It really is a matter of who you want to teach, kids or in unis.
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Calories



Joined: 17 Jun 2005
Posts: 361
Location: Chinese Food Hell

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching in China is not easy?? Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Finding a job without a degree in China is easy. Just go for middle schools/high schools, primary schools and kindergarden jobs.
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leavingonajetplane



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Posts: 15
Location: Europe

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed that for a lot of jobs you don't need a degree for the job, but you do for immigration and visa purposes.
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thrifty



Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turkey is doable without a degree, just hop across the border every 3 months.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

leavingonajetplane wrote:
I've noticed that for a lot of jobs you don't need a degree for the job, but you do for immigration and visa purposes.


Very true. Thailand for example - many jobs require degrees - kind of - but just to satisfy the Dept. of Labor. If you don't mind doing visa runs - most any job can be yours.
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