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ChineseChris · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 45 Location: Brrrrr in the North

Hi everyone.
Just a question that is bugging me. During my discussions in the last week re signing of a new contract the topic came up (from employer) about this forum. They quoted it to me and said they are fed up with FTs moaning about conditions, rates of pay etc. Surprised me a little as they are obviously reading this all the time by some of the things they quoted to me.
Any thoughts comments about this??

vikdk · Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 1676

hope they quoted me Laughing

maybe our messages aren't just shouts in the wilderness - apart from moans did they give any concrete reasons why they're displeased - did they say why some of our wishes were unrealistic?????

ChineseChris · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 45 Location: Brrrrr in the North

It was quite interesting actually as I played dumb and said I did not know what they were talking about but would have a look at it.
They were actually trying to use it to screw the wage and benefits down for the new contract. Saying that some people were working for Y3000 a year. Yeah right I said but when I have more than 4 yrs experience and good reports from the school and students don't try and pull that one on me.
Maybe this could be a warning for some who are in the middle of negotiations at the moment.

vikdk · Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 1676

Well I guess - for your spot of bother - you have to thank all those fine posters who tell us that our ethical duties as teachers should make us nice contented and well behaved monkeys when being presented with a rather lightweight pay envelope - reading these forums, what a push-over China FT's must seem Laughing

Malsol · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1976 Location: Lanzhou

Shanghai Normal FAO reads Dave's regularly.

Voldermort · Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 597

If it isn't enough for employers reading, how about other FT's printing posts from a particular topic/user and presenting them to the employer, without even having the courtesy of informing that poster beforehand.

Malsol · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1976 Location: Lanzhou

Imagine that you were a Chinese FAO and just finished reading the Off Topic Forum.

Would you be thinking that these smart chaps deserve a much higher salary or that we need to cut down the ration of bananas?

Hendahu · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 69

I am sure some employers do read this, but I doubt they take the advice to heart.

KWhitehead · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject: Warning about Sunny, Happy Posts

there was an article in the new york times a few weeks ago about chinese university students being paid to steer threads in the "right direction". i'm sure something like this exists on dave's. some posts are too warm and happy.

Midlothian Mapleheart · Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 623 Location: Elsewhere

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jeffinflorida · Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:51 am Post subject:

I think the snoopie little commie fao from my first school reads daves, yes.

it has got back to me about certain comments i may - or may not - have made on daves...

prof · Joined: 25 Jun 2004 Posts: 741 Location: Boston/China

I can assure you that this forum is read by many foreign EFL management types.

latefordinner · Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Posts: 973

I would hope so. I also hope she'd have the good sense to sift the wheat from the chaff, and to give time and thought to the important issues rather than react immediately and emotionally. Does she? How would I know?

prof · Joined: 25 Jun 2004 Posts: 741 Location: Boston/China

Yu · Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 1219 Location: Shanghai