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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:27 am Post subject: when students seem clueless |
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I had a student stroll into my classroom and start talking to her friend. This would have been okay, except that the class had started 15 minutes earlier. I asked the student, '"Are you in this class?" She started to reply that she wasn't, and I promptly booted her out.
Seen anything like this, and how did you handle it? I am debating whether I should report it to kyoumuka (admin), but I'm not usually of the mind to do that . |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: |
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..... or when a mobile phone goes off and they start pacing the room as they answer it. I shepherd them out the room. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Clueless students like that are not clueless. They are either breaking rules or they are downright rude.
You guys seem to have handled things all right to me.
In my university classes, I try to treat them as young adults. If a cell phone goes off, I stop in mock surprise, pause, and perhaps make a joke about the melody, then mildly announce to turn it off. Everyone smiles, and the offender is only mildly embarrassed as they turn it off.
In high school, I confiscated the cell phone, per school policy, and they had to come to their homeroom teacher to explain and apologize. |
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shuize
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 1270
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:38 am Post subject: |
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Similar to the OP, once, during a large lecture class, I had a student walk in about fifteen minutes late, rifle around the seats in the back of the room as though he was looking for something, then walk right down the isle and up to me at the podium where I was in the middle of lecturing in front of about 100 students to ask the following question:
Student: "Do you know where my train pass is?"
Me (after a short pause): "Are you retarded?" |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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I have had plenty of clueless students. Meaning that they didn't have a clue about something. (Often English.)
But what you're describing strikes me as less than clueless. THey can't be THAT clueless about appropriate behaviour, as Glenski mentioned. They aren't behaving appropriately, but I have a hard time believing that they don't know this.
Let them know what you expect. Let them know what will happen if they don't deliver it. Then let them choose.
By the way, Shuize. It sounds like the young man had lost his bus pass, and was looking for it. His turn of phrase, when he asked you about it, was a bit odd. Probably not his first language, after all. I don't see where this leads to the conclusion that he is retarded.
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Justin |
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Justin Trullinger wrote: |
By the way, Shuize. It sounds like the young man had lost his bus pass, and was looking for it. His turn of phrase, when he asked you about it, was a bit odd. Probably not his first language, after all. I don't see where this leads to the conclusion that he is retarded.
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Maybe he shouldn't interrupt a lecture to ask where his train pass is. It does sound a little autistic. |
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Serious_Fun

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1171 Location: terra incognita
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Classroom Management techniques are our way of guiding those "clueless" souls...
Tools for Fools? sorry...I love and respect all of my students...even the needy ones. |
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shuize
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 1270
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Justin Trullinger wrote: |
By the way, Shuize. It sounds like the young man had lost his bus pass, and was looking for it. His turn of phrase, when he asked you about it, was a bit odd. Probably not his first language, after all. I don't see where this leads to the conclusion that he is retarded. |
I guess I forgot to mention the exchange took place in Japanese and that he turned out not to be my student. But that really shouldn't matter. If you walk into the middle of a large, ongoing lecture class and interrupt the instructor by standing directly in front of him at the podium to ask about your train pass, then, yeah, you're retarded. |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Serious_Fun posted
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I love and respect all of my students...even the needy ones. |
Especially the needy ones, they keep me employed !
Justin Trullinger posted
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They aren't behaving appropriately, but I have a hard time believing that they don't know this. |
Me too. I think sometimes students assume foreign teachers will be more lenient in putting up with rude behaviour.
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Clueless students like that are not clueless. They are either breaking rules or they are downright rude. |
No, I think they are clueless too. I can't imagine myself ever doing what that student did. The ones that try to signal through the window in the door are bad enough . |
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