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[tvik]

do they only hire brits??

is it difficult to get a job there??? high turn over??? difficult work????

[scot47]

Most are British but there are also a few 'colonials' including those from North America. Chances are slim for Americanos.

[Mark100]

BAE do hire Aussies and they were hiring Americans as well i think.

They tend to hire a lot of retreads there but as BAE have a new contract with the Saudi government they should be looking for more teachers in the near future.

Send in an application and try your luck.

[Neil McBeath]

Pay no attention to Scot 47, who has never worked for BAE.

No, they don't only hire Brits. They also hire Americans, Canadians, South Africans, Austrailians, New Zealanders and the Irish.

Turn over has been fairly high recently, but that was because BAE discontiued the Retention Bonus this year. They increased salary soon after, and that counts towards the company pension, so people who had been employed for a long time stood to gain overall. Those who had joined on the promise of virtually 50,000 pounds a year felt short changed.

Working conditions are what you make of them In terms of preparation, there is not too much too do. The materials are well written, and the time span for courses is often so short that there really isn't time to include supplementary materials anyway.

The amount of effort expended in really TEACHING the stuff can be vast. It depends very much on the particular class you get, and how (de) motivated they are.

[scot47]

How many non-Britsih are teaching English with BAE ? A small minority.

Mr Mcbeath is right. I have never worked for BAE - or any other death merchants. Neither have I visited Antarctica, but I know it is cold there.

[personae gratae]

I believe BAE recruits through different contractors like SDT and STA. That could explain the different nationalities. As for "direct hires ",unless HM has taken over the colonies, I am pretty sure they hire mainly Brits as salaries are paid into UK bank accounts in Pounds Sterling.

PG

[Mark100]

The Australians i know at BAE were hired through a branch of BAE or recruiter in Australia and were paid in an Australian bank account in Australian dollars. The salary was converted from British pounds. The Aussies got slightly less than the Brits.
The majority of employess are British with a few opther colonials thrown in.
I wouldn't have any moral compunctions about working for BAE.
The fact that you signed a contract in Saudi means that you are already morally bankrupt in any case!!!
You go to Saudi for the money and BAE pays the best so why not?

[Van Norden]

There's no mention of nationality in the recent tefl.com advert. If you look at baesystems.com/Careers you'll
see more contact numbers for the UK and other locations:

[Mark100]

If you read the ad three nationalities are mentioned with a fourth implied.

Brits, Aussies, Kiwis and Saudis.

[Van Norden]

I referred to 2 different websites. I didn't post links coz they're too long, but I put them in bold in an attempt to make the distinction clear.

The tefl.com ad doesn't specify nationality, but the contact numbers are in the UK.

The quote in my previous post is from the baesystems.com site.

The point is, if the OP isn't British / Aussie / Kiwi, can he apply through the UK contacts given in both ads?

[Griff-James]

Is this really the best TEFL job in Saudi?

[scot47]

If you measure the 'best job' solely by the size of the paycheque, BAE is the best EFL job in Saudi.

[Griff-James]

Thanks, Scot.

What's the most pleasant place to work in Saudi?

[thrifty]

Scot and co. are way out of touch. BAE employ Canadians, Irish, South Africans etc. directly and not through SDT. Who are STA? Salaries are not paid into British bank accounts. They are paid into any bank you want.

[scot47]

I don't care what nationality your WingCo or Flight Sergeant is !