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Mr. White · Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 36

gone polite

forest1979 · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 507 Location: SE Asia

Mr. White - You're just being picky! Don't let the law get in the way of making money.

BigWally · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:36 am Post subject:

There are a lot of teachers who probably make a lot of money working for Hess. But as you said, the website doesn't offer a whole lot that most schools won't give. I mean with any chain school you're going to be following the law (to some degree) and you're going to be legal as well. They are just trying to make it sound like they are the only ones who do this in an effort to increase recruitment.

markholmes · Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 661 Location: Wengehua

BigWally · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject:

clark.w.griswald · Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2056

The fact is that kindergarten positions in Hess are pretty secure and although some foreigners have been deported for working in kindergartens I have never heard of anyone being deported from a Hess kindergarten.

That said, you are obviously aware of the kindergarten situation, so why not just work in the other programs that Hess offers and that are 100% legal?

Mr. White · Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 36

gone polite

JZer · Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh

Mr. White · Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 36

gone polite

Ki · Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 475

I interviewed at a non-Hess kindy. When I said about having to run away when the police came I was told that it wasn't necessary. I can walk.

JZer · Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh

Darotker · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 15

It's funny to me that people even ask about HESS anymore.

This thread is just another spin of the same broken record: Everyone knows that HESS is one of the worst possible schools in Taiwan. I worked there, so I know. Hardly anyone completes their year long contract, the Head Office is less than professional and the schedule is HORRIBLE (6 days a week, 9am to 9pm for a lot of people).

The only people who work at HESS are new teachers who don't know any better, or strange older teachers who don't have any other options.

It's a place for below average, mediocre people. If you view yourself as being average to above average in ability, there are a lot better opportunities.

forest1979 · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 507 Location: SE Asia

It might be the same old, same old from Hess but you have to admit they know how to market themselves, and this is why people ask about them on sites such as this. In many respects their large number of schools, their internet presence and their use of local media - e.g. they are always sticking ads and nominating teachers of the month in the Taipei Times - so it's to be expected that people new to TEFL in Taiwan shall enquire. True, those with greater TEFL knowledge know to avoid Hess like the plague but don't knock the ability of the company to put themselves out there to the wider world. In this respect Hess probably are Taiwanese leaders. In pedagogical terms they are certainly not though.

JZer · Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh

Not to mention that Hess offers 30,000 NT start up loans. That means just about anyone could come here and work for them. You don't need to have $3000 US to buy a plane ticket and then live for two months while you wait for your first pay.

Darotker · Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 15