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Is is a criminal act in China to owe money (to ex-employer)?

 
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SpedEd



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: Is is a criminal act in China to owe money (to ex-employer)? Reply with quote

Is it a crime to own money in China? (I *may* owe a C-person money - less than $500 USD - and want to know about possible legal consequences. This circumstance arose from a work-related fallout.)
I'm from the Free World where debtors' jails have closed since Dickens wrote about them; however, I'm not sure about what can happen in China.
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Anda



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

I would be more worried from the person arranging someone to beat you up than legal consequences. The Chinese constantly cheat each other for whatever amount they can.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, if you signed a contract to that effect, they can dangle it in front of you and give you a hard time, yes.

Common workers here are what we would consider "indebted servants" in the West. They often have to pay a "deposit" to get a job and lose the deposit if they quit or are fired.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't worry about it....

I mean the court / jail thing.

Now getting jumped from behind one night.... Thats another story
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

although they can retain you at the border to make good on debts before exit.
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SpedEd



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj750s wrote:
although they can retain you at the border to make good on debts before exit.


Yea! I'll never pay. I will have to get the consulate involved when I cross that bridge (sigh).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yea! I'll never pay. I will have to get the consulate involved when I cross that bridge (sigh).

You mention a debt that is under $500 - looks like quite an international incident brewing up here - I'm sure your consulate is already in contact with special-forces Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cj750s wrote:
although they can retain you at the border to make good on debts before exit.


Yea! I'll never pay. I will have to get the consulate involved when I cross that bridge (sigh).


You may not half to if your able to bolt before a judgement....
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The Voice Of Reason



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could it be possible the other party might be ok to write off the money knowing that they are rid of you?
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Surfdude18



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does one end up owing money to a school in China? Is this a 'breakage of contract' fee thing?

Usually, the unwritten rules stipulate that the FT will merely forego his return airfare and it will be called quits without further ado.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, I will ask:

Did you sign anything that said you would owe them money if you quit early?
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The Voice Of Reason



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were you reimbursed your airfare early and then took off?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen three cases of FT taken to court for the contract fee....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj750s wrote:
You may not half to if your able to bolt before a judgement....

Are you a native speaker of English, or are you just functionally illiterate? What does 'half to' mean? Do you mean 'have to'? And by 'your' do you by any chance mean 'you're'?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't ya think all this attention may make members talk....wait..I'll be sending you secret messages in my next post...
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