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goodwork002002
Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 22 Location: Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: China Provinces that hire "over 60" ESL Teachers? |
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I am told that there are some provinces in China where my age (63) will not be a problem given my vast teaching experience.
Does anyone KNOW which provinces/cities/schools these are?
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ttorriel
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 193
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Already asked in the past two weeks. |
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Chris_Crossley

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:01 pm Post subject: Where to find 60-somethings as colleagues |
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Wuhan City in Hubei Province - I should know, since I've been here more than eight years, am currently in my third full-time job in the city (and that has lasted almost five years alone), and have had quite a number of 60-somethings as colleagues during that time in all three places I have worked on behalf of, including a few who started out as EFL teachers despite being already of state retirement age, all of them men. |
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TexasHighway
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Mr. Ed
Joined: 11 Feb 2010 Posts: 46
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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There are only two provinces where you absolutely cannot get an FEC if you are over 60 and they are Liaoning and Fujian and last year Liaoning made an exception for me but I did not take the job.
Beijing and Guangzhou regularly waive the rule.
The point is the contradiction. There are no absolutes in China
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tomstone
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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It doesn't depend on the province, it depends on the school. |
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Mr. Ed
Joined: 11 Feb 2010 Posts: 46
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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tomstone wrote: |
It doesn't depend on the province, it depends on the school. |
I have many reasons to believe that you are correct within the context of provincial policy.
Please show me a single school in Fujian Province in the past 5 years that has obtained an FEC for anyone over 60. They have tried but the provincial FAO has rejected every attempt.
In some provinces that do issue an FEC to those over 60, some schools claim no one over 60 can be hired, but that is an excuse not to hire someone. |
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tomstone
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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within the context of provincial policy |
Yes, that is what I was referring to. I believe that the OP is assuming that policies are province-wide; they most definitely are not. |
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The Ever-changing Cleric

Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 1523
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Mr. Ed wrote: |
tomstone wrote: |
It doesn't depend on the province, it depends on the school. |
I have many reasons to believe that you are correct within the context of provincial policy.
Please show me a single school in Fujian Province in the past 5 years that has obtained an FEC for anyone over 60. They have tried but the provincial FAO has rejected every attempt. |
mr ed, a serious question re: fujian: can i ask how you know this? how are you so sure? do you have a link to their database? |
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KarenB
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 227 Location: Hainan
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Several teachers in Hainan over 60 -- one is about 72, I think.
That doesn't mean it won't be a problem.
But if you look healthy and vigorous, you might do ok. They mainly don't want a teacher who's too tired to keep up with the students, or an old fuddy-duddy, or someone who is subject to illness. |
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slayer6719
Joined: 31 Mar 2009 Posts: 89 Location: Somewhere between here and there!
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Ummmmmmmmm even in Fujian the rule is not set in concrete. I know of at least one teacher in a university over 60 and at the mill i work at there is a fellow who celebrated his 61 st birthday last month!  |
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Zero
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Psalms 7l: 17-18 Oh God, thou hast taught me from my youth: and hitherto have I declared thy wondrous works. Now also when I am old and grayheaded, O God, forsake me not; until I have showed thy strength unto this generation, and thy power to every one that is to come. |
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JamesD
Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Posts: 934 Location: "As far as I'm concerned bacon comes from a magical happy place."
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:22 am Post subject: |
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It does depend on the school's connections and relationship with the powers that be. I know two teachers in Liaoning well over 60. |
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Ariadne
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Re Fujian and being over 60... I'm at a university in Fujian that has several FTs in their sixities, including me. So, just like everything else in China, this 'rule' is not written in stone.
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