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scot47

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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:26 am Post subject: Police Clearance When Leaving KSA |
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Teachers leaving KSA might want to get a police clearance from the authorities before leaving here. Certainly in Britain if you are teaching or working in any way with children you need to prove that you have a clean slate. That includes time spent in foreign jurisdictions. I am pretty sure similar rules exist in other countries.
Get it before you leave. Do not wait until you are outside KSA and have that extra bureaucratic hurdle.
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perfectweapon
Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Posts: 58 Location: Roaming the wild blue yonder
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Scot47 do you think that the Saudi authorities are capable of doing a police clearance letter/form? When I was there 1979 to 1984 the police were not capable of doing anything, but maybe things have changed? |
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scot47

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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:57 am Post subject: |
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They most certainly are. I know several people who have done it. They are also cheaper than their colleagues in the United Kingdom.
The cost - and the hassle - in KSA comes when you have to get the documents apostilled and verified at the Embassy of Her Britannic Majesty.
Many things have changes in KSA since 1984. The Ministry of the Interior has a centralised database utilising your Iqama Number to identify you. Despotism has its benefits.
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Sheikh N Bake

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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Other countries, perhaps, but not in the US. Whether that's a negative or a positive would be an interesting debate for another thread somewhere. |
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scot47

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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Can you clarify that post Sheikh. I do not understand the meaning you wish to convey. |
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Sheikh N Bake

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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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I refer to your comment that other countries besides the UK probably have the rule that teachers returning from overseas must prove with a police report that they've been behaving themselves. Not in the U.S. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hey SnB... how about if they were applying to teach elementary school? I thought criminal checks were the norm now.
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perfectweapon
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Scot47 thank you for the information at least something has improved a little, but the big question is would it recognized in the real world? It is ok to say "The Ministry of the Interior has a centralized database utilizing your Iqama Number to identify you" ,but say you are there on one of those 90 visas you don�t get an Iqama, so they can't trace you. |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: Police Clearance When leaving KSA |
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scot47 wrote: |
Teachers leaving KSA might want to get a police clearance from the authorities before leaving here. Certainly in Britain if you are teaching or working in any way with children you need to prove that you have a clean slate. That includes time spent in foreign jurisdictions. I am pretty sure similar rules exist in other countries. |
Well, Uncle Scott, when I left the Magic Kingdom, I did not get this police clearance, but my university in UK did the CRB check for me.
As far as I know, the Magic Kingdom does not provide a CBR certificate as in UK. If you take a normal police letter, then I guess it will not be accepted, at least in UK, as an equivalent of a CBR certificate. |
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Stephen Jones
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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The UK system is an absolute disaster. Total paranoia. |
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scot47

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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:32 am Post subject: |
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The police clearance (criminal background check) applies only to those with iqamas.
If you are working illegally on a business visa you will not be able to do this.
Another reason not to follow the advice of the misguided who think it is ok to work on a business visa. |
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perfectweapon
Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Posts: 58 Location: Roaming the wild blue yonder
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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:40 am Post subject: |
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scot97 very true there are some who are misguided, and have not read this form, and they have not checked other search engines. |
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BillCowher
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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: Lot of us are here illegally so what do we do? |
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There are a helluva lot of us here on illegal visas working illegally so how would we go about getting a criminal records check? |
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scot47

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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Well................you could try going to see the police and explain,"I am working here illegally, I wonder if................................"
And wait for the cell door to bang behind you. |
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Sheikh N Bake

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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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VS--true, I don't have any elementary or secondary school background (other than having been a pupil--ha ha), but I suspect any school district background check would be limited to the last local jurisdiction in which the applicant worked or lived in the U.S. From overseas I imagine they'd require only reference letters. |
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