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da808warrior
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 Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:12 am Post subject: Too late to teach in HK? |
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I was just wondering if its too late to get a job teaching english in elementary schools in the HK.
got a geography degree, but am not certified in anything. im assuming they wont take me since im not certified, especially as a TESOL.
do you think its too late to get the job despite not being certified, not having a visa or passport, but having a degree???
im debating to become certified as quickly as possible through this site http://www.onlinetefl.com/tefl-course/ . hopefully its legit. and trying to get the job through this website http://www.teachaway.com/content/teaching-public-schools-hong-kong . hopefully they are legit as well
is it too late since classes are starting in august already, or do i have to wait either till January (new semester) or wait till next august for the new school year.
Like to hear your guys responses, esp the ones that are obviously there. |
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Serious_Fun
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oh no problem! You'll get one of the best positions. Don't worry about those silly "teaching qualifications" or what is often referred to as "experience".  That is all just so much rubbish.
What schools are looking for these days is: someone with a geography degree, without a passport, and who actually thinks that taking a brief online course would cause them to be "certified".  These are the same things that concerned parents look for in a teacher.  The local teachers who have graduate degrees and many years of professional teaching experience are looking forward to working with someone like that; mark my words!
You're in da808warrior! No worries! Come on over! The schools are desperate right now; for some reason there are hardly any qualified teachers in Hong Kong. |
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A'Moo
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Serious_Fun wrote: |
oh no problem! You'll get one of the best positions. Don't worry about those silly "teaching qualifications" or what is often referred to as "experience". That is all just so much rubbish.
What schools are looking for these days is: someone with a geography degree, without a passport, and who actually thinks that taking a brief online course would cause them to be "certified". These are the same things that concerned parents look for in a teacher. The local teachers who have graduate degrees and many years of professional teaching experience are looking forward to working with someone like that; mark my words!
You're in da808warrior! No worries! Come on over! The schools are desperate right now; for some reason there are hardly any qualified teachers in Hong Kong. |
Hmm-then whats with all the Philipinos I see on my jaunts teaching English in HK now? Surely there must be employment for a graduate from a Canadian university.
OP, dont listen to the drivel that all teachers in HK have been lured away from their presidencies at Ivy league school educational departments. Its the same as elsewhere, qualified and non-qualified persons teaching here, and salaries ranging commensurately. From what others have said on these boards, your qual's wouldnt net you a large payday though (20,000/mo)? |
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da808warrior
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| A'Moo wrote: |
| Serious_Fun wrote: |
oh no problem! You'll get one of the best positions. Don't worry about those silly "teaching qualifications" or what is often referred to as "experience". That is all just so much rubbish.
What schools are looking for these days is: someone with a geography degree, without a passport, and who actually thinks that taking a brief online course would cause them to be "certified". These are the same things that concerned parents look for in a teacher. The local teachers who have graduate degrees and many years of professional teaching experience are looking forward to working with someone like that; mark my words!
You're in da808warrior! No worries! Come on over! The schools are desperate right now; for some reason there are hardly any qualified teachers in Hong Kong. |
Hmm-then whats with all the Philipinos I see on my jaunts teaching English in HK now? Surely there must be employment for a graduate from a Canadian university.
OP, dont listen to the drivel that all teachers in HK have been lured away from their presidencies at Ivy league school educational departments. Its the same as elsewhere, qualified and non-qualified persons teaching here, and salaries ranging commensurately. From what others have said on these boards, your qual's wouldnt net you a large payday though (20,000/mo)? |
thanks for a legit response, unlike this other fool. if he/ she/ shim is trying to be funny, stop, because you fail majorly at it. lets hope T-cog here isint as dumb as his avatar.
anywayz, so it seems like its still possible to make the august cut off? the site i posted still requires a SF visit and interview beforehand. dont know if you had to go through something like. can they still hire you in january for the second semester, or do you have to wait a full year?
appreciate a real response and not a dumbaz response. |
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anninhk
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:39 am Post subject: |
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You are definitely too late to start in August and unless you have a TESOL certificate that is accredited by the EDB you won't be able to start at all.
The TESOL cert must have at least 100 hours practical teaching (I think) so you need to make sure that the course you are doing does have a practical component and isn't just online.
You can be engaged by a school on an individual basis but even so your qualifications must be accepted by the EDB for you to be able to work on the NET scheme otherwise you are just regarded as an ELTA and do not get the special allowance and other benefits. |
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da808warrior
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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You are definitely too late to start in August and unless you have a TESOL certificate that is accredited by the EDB you won't be able to start at all.
The TESOL cert must have at least 100 hours practical teaching (I think) so you need to make sure that the course you are doing does have a practical component and isn't just online.
You can be engaged by a school on an individual basis but even so your qualifications must be accepted by the EDB for you to be able to work on the NET scheme otherwise you are just regarded as an ELTA and do not get the special allowance and other benefits. |
thanks. didnt know if i could do the whole 20 hour online sesh and still get away with it or not. might as well do the right one.
do you know if they hire new teachers for the second semester of the school year in december january? or do you have to wait till next year in august when the school year starts over again. thanks for the input |
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therock
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: Too late to teach in HK? |
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| da808warrior wrote: |
do you think its too late to get the job despite not being certified, not having a visa or passport, but having a degree???
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Don't want to rain on your parade but with no passport, how do you expect to come to HK?  |
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da808warrior
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: Too late to teach in HK? |
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| therock wrote: |
| da808warrior wrote: |
do you think its too late to get the job despite not being certified, not having a visa or passport, but having a degree???
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Don't want to rain on your parade but with no passport, how do you expect to come to HK? |
id get it eventually, pending how long it takes to process it of course.
2 weeks? its too late.
at this point i just want to know if theyre hiring for spring semester already |
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therock
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe you are better of getting the passport first and then looking at getting hired for the Spring semester. |
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Serious_Fun
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| A'Moo wrote: |
| Hmm-then whats with all the Philipinos I see on my jaunts teaching English in HK now? |
 "All the Philipinos"? What are you going on about, man? very strange.
| A'Moo wrote: |
| Surely there must be employment for a graduate from a Canadian university. |
Perhaps there is if the degree is related to education and the degree holder has some experience...with a passport to put the visa in!
| A'Moo wrote: |
Its the same as elsewhere, qualified and non-qualified persons teaching here, and salaries ranging commensurately. From what others have said on these boards, your qual's wouldnt net you a large payday though (20,000/mo)
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"teaching here"? Aren't you on the mainland?
The OP asked about work in primary schools, not language mills.
 Why are so many people afraid to state the facts in response to these bizarre questions on this forum? Look at the OP's post; a poorly written and dumbed-down query by an individual who admits to the fact that he/she doesn't possess any teaching qualifications. He/she wants to teach in a primary school in a city known for being very competitive and for being very strict when evaluating qualifications (how many of us were asked to provide primary school transcripts to the HKCAAVQ ?). This is just as ridiculous as my earlier reply. The OP doesn't stand a chance judging by what we can see on this forum. That is the reality. Hong Kong, for all of its many faults, is not the place for someone who 'googled' their way through a second-rate degree.
The OP should do what an educated person would do, (this will be excellent practice for you "da808warrior"), and visit the EdB's website. It really isn't that difficult.
"808" is appropriate enough though: disturbing the peace |
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da808warrior
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Serious_Fun wrote: |
| A'Moo wrote: |
| Hmm-then whats with all the Philipinos I see on my jaunts teaching English in HK now? |
"All the Philipinos"? What are you going on about, man? very strange.
| A'Moo wrote: |
| Surely there must be employment for a graduate from a Canadian university. |
Perhaps there is if the degree is related to education and the degree holder has some experience...with a passport to put the visa in!
| A'Moo wrote: |
Its the same as elsewhere, qualified and non-qualified persons teaching here, and salaries ranging commensurately. From what others have said on these boards, your qual's wouldnt net you a large payday though (20,000/mo)
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"teaching here"? Aren't you on the mainland?
The OP asked about work in primary schools, not language mills.
Why are so many people afraid to state the facts in response to these bizarre questions on this forum? Look at the OP's post; a poorly written and dumbed-down query by an individual who admits to the fact that he/she doesn't possess any teaching qualifications. He/she wants to teach in a primary school in a city known for being very competitive and for being very strict when evaluating qualifications (how many of us were asked to provide primary school transcripts to the HKCAAVQ ?). This is just as ridiculous as my earlier reply. The OP doesn't stand a chance judging by what we can see on this forum. That is the reality. Hong Kong, for all of its many faults, is not the place for someone who 'googled' their way through a second-rate degree.
The OP should do what an educated person would do, (this will be excellent practice for you "da808warrior"), and visit the EdB's website. It really isn't that difficult.
"808" is appropriate enough though: disturbing the peace |
wow another jackazz post. doesnt surprise me or your thoughts of geography being a second rate degree. i feel bad for the kids you are teaching because they will probably be as dumb as you if you think like that.
every messageboard has a dipsh*t that resides there and im guessing you fit the bill on that one. glad youre promoting serious fun with that avatar of yours. lets hope your not having your students stab themselves with rusty ice picks next. |
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da808warrior
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| therock wrote: |
| Maybe you are better of getting the passport first and then looking at getting hired for the Spring semester. |
yah pretty much. talked to some vets and said that spring semester starts in march? dont know if thats true or not, but ill have everything by then. |
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Serious_Fun
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| da808warrior wrote: |
wow another jackazz post. doesnt surprise me or your thoughts of geography being a second rate degree. i feel bad for the kids you are teaching because they will probably be as dumb as you if you think like that.
every messageboard has a dipsh*t that resides there and im guessing you fit the bill on that one. glad youre promoting serious fun with that avatar of yours. lets hope your not having your students stab themselves with rusty ice picks next. |
You are obviously a very well-educated and refined person who will be highly sought after by the best schools here in Hong Kong.
Until next year,
best regards,
Serious_Fun  |
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therock
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Serious_Fun wrote: |
| da808warrior wrote: |
wow another jackazz post. doesnt surprise me or your thoughts of geography being a second rate degree. i feel bad for the kids you are teaching because they will probably be as dumb as you if you think like that.
every messageboard has a dipsh*t that resides there and im guessing you fit the bill on that one. glad youre promoting serious fun with that avatar of yours. lets hope your not having your students stab themselves with rusty ice picks next. |
You are obviously a very well-educated and refined person who will be highly sought after by the best schools here in Hong Kong.
Until next year,
best regards,
Serious_Fun |
Come on Serious_Fun, he or she has a Geography degree!!! |
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da808warrior
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| cool story brah |
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