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jibbs
Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 452
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:28 am Post subject: Summer Camps - worth the time? |
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| I guess there are a few summer jobs available. I am off for 2 months soon. Are they OK or not worth it? |
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Gamecock
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 102 Location: Zhuhai, China
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:32 am Post subject: |
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This is like asking, "Teaching in China, is it worth it?"
There are a plethura of summer jobs. A few are great, some are good, some are ok, and many suck. I would say there are more bad jobs run by greedy, moneygrubbing *%&^'s than good ones, for sure.
The upside is that if you find a good summer job you can experience a different part of China and make some nice coin while doing it. The downside is you could get used and abused.
So, if you're thinking about summer jobs, fine tune your BS detector and avoid anything that seems in the least bit sketchy or questionable. The good thing is if you are already a teacher in China, the summer job probably isn't sponsoring your visa/work permit and you can walk away at any time that they don't live up to the terms they promised you. NEVER give up your passport to the director of a summer job! |
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jibbs
Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 452
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for reply GC
My question was hasty and poor but I never did done them there types of works before.
Cheers |
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mat chen
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 494 Location: xiangtan hunan
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| 'Avoid exfoliation before doing a summer gig. The kiddies like to pull on your hairs for hours. |
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tributary
Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 28
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:01 am Post subject: Re: Summer Camps - worth the time? |
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| jibbs wrote: |
| I guess there are a few summer jobs available. I am off for 2 months soon. Are they OK or not worth it? |
This is not a reasonable question. The real question is, "Is it worth it to YOU?" A billion factors involved and only you know what is an acceptable way of life for you. I have lived in China 8 years, now married, and more. So, I "live in China" and not some lame traveler. My life is what it is and summer work is not live or die for me unless I have some desperate need for money, which isn't really an issue.
And you ? |
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tributary
Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Posts: 28
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| Gamecock wrote: |
This is like asking, "Teaching in China, is it worth it?"
There are a plethura of summer jobs. A few are great, some are good, some are ok, and many suck. I would say there are more bad jobs run by greedy, moneygrubbing *%&^'s than good ones, for sure.
The upside is that if you find a good summer job you can experience a different part of China and make some nice coin while doing it. The downside is you could get used and abused.
So, if you're thinking about summer jobs, fine tune your BS detector and avoid anything that seems in the least bit sketchy or questionable. The good thing is if you are already a teacher in China, the summer job probably isn't sponsoring your visa/work permit and you can walk away at any time that they don't live up to the terms they promised you. NEVER give up your passport to the director of a summer job! |
WOW .... you live your life and take jobs based on "promises" ?
For those that decide to take these "summer jobs" that are quite likely in violation of their contract and thus law, deserve to be cheated. You take advantage of the law and violate your contract, you have no expectation of being treated fairly by secondary "employers" ... Follow the law and contractual obligations by getting written permission for such secondary work, have an actual signed contract from the "summer gig" and you have legal protection for what you all seem are unscrupulous employers. |
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TexasHighway
Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 779
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:21 am Post subject: |
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tributary wrote:
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| I have lived in China 8 years, now married, and more. So, I "live in China" and not some lame traveler. |
Wow, you have lived in China 8 years but just last month registered with this forum? Anyway, welcome to Dave's!  |
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mister_kot
Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 81
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| Wow, you have lived in China 8 years but just last month registered with this forum? Anyway, welcome to Dave's! Smile |
He's probably been ejected from the forum many times as he will be ejected in the near future. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:23 am Post subject: |
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When someone relatively new at teaching abroad gets tricked or lured into a situation that is unfair or illegal, do you blame the person who cheated or the person who got cheated?
I would never say that newbies to China deserve to get cheated just because they are inexperienced about some of the issues nor I would never encourage nor support someone to cheat another.
And any experienced teacher who actively spends his or her time insulting others and saying that newbie teachers deserve to be cheated has some serious ethical issues, IMHO. |
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Mister Al

Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 840 Location: In there
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| but I never did done them there types of works before. |
Oh dear..................glad you don't teach my kid. Probably one of the worst sentences I have ever seen here. |
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jibbs
Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 452
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:52 am Post subject: Re: Summer Camps - worth the time? |
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| tributary wrote: |
and not some lame traveler.
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*ugh
barf
do not write such crap please |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:53 am Post subject: |
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I did a 5 wk summer gig a few years ago. Best 5 weeks I have had in China.
There was no signed contract. The small language school was really out in the country - and they didn't have the legal right to hire foreigners.
The town was smallish by Chinese standards about 300,000 people.
I was the only laowai for miles and was certainly stared at in a way I hadn't been in the main centre I lived in normally.
My regular employer knew (I think) that I was employed over summer and were totally uninterested.
I was well paid and the hospitality was embarrassingly lavish.
It's 7 years since that first summer job and I still receive emails from the children I taught. Of course they're in high school now.
My advice is go for a school who really value you - ie they've arranged their summer courses around you being there. |
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jibbs
Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 452
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| Mister Al wrote: |
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| but I never did done them there types of works before. |
Oh dear..................glad you don't teach my kid. Probably one of the worst sentences I have ever seen here. |
Um, that was just a joke. I have excellent English my friend. |
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xjgirl
Joined: 02 Feb 2010 Posts: 242
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 5:03 am Post subject: |
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the problem with most summer schools is the organizer
does not know how many students they're going to get into you're already into your second or third day of classes.
AVOID IS THE BEST OPTION |
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platinum peyote

Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Posts: 149 Location: Nanjing, near the bus stop
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| jibbs wrote: |
My question was hasty and poor but I never did done them there types of works before.
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Once you did done one summer camps, you done did did them alls. |
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