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Anyone taught at Shane English School?/ DD Dragon school?

 
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dave ning



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:16 pm    Post subject: Anyone taught at Shane English School?/ DD Dragon school? Reply with quote

I signed up for a teacher recruiting agency called "Gold Star TEFL Recruitment." There are two schools they referred me to that I'm debating over right now. I don't know which should I teach for. I'm thinking of DD Dragon school. The person who interviewed me seemed extremely outgoing and I had really good interview with him. My interview with Shane English School is coming up but according to some ESL teacher boards on the web, they're terrible to work for. Does anybody here have any experience with them or DD Dragon school?
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samhouston



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do a search for DD Dragon on this site. I've written plenty about it to give you an idea of what to expect.

Don't use a recruiter for DD Dragon or Shane or any other bigger name companies that you can contact directly.
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dave ning



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your response. I did a search for DD Dragon school but there were pages and pages of results. Is there a specific title that I should look for? Thanks. I'm pretty green when I comes to looking for jobs in the ESL field in other countries, that's why I decided to choose a recruiting agency to help me out. Why is it bad to use an agency to apply for a big school? Do they tend to not care and sell you off for the commission?

Best,
Dave.
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LongShiKong



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just accepted a position with Shane in a small city near Shanghai. Next week I'll go for training in Shanghai.

I read all the posts (for years back) here on Dave's and searched elsewhere (found a couple of personal blogs) but couldn't find much substance to the rants. In fact, a Shanghai DoS who came to the defence of their Beijing school received more support for what he stated than the OP. I'll give you assessment within a few weeks.

It seems the more negative the post title, the less substance it actually has. That's why I've advocated the approach taken by Int'l School Review where you can find a list of schools with individual anonymous assessments rating the school on various criteria.
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samhouston



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dave ning wrote:
Thanks for your response. I did a search for DD Dragon school but there were pages and pages of results. Is there a specific title that I should look for? Thanks. I'm pretty green when I comes to looking for jobs in the ESL field in other countries, that's why I decided to choose a recruiting agency to help me out.

Best,
Dave.


http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=70333

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=73714

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=87702

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=52086

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Why is it bad to use an agency to apply for a big school? Do they tend to not care and sell you off for the commission?

As far as DDD is concerned (unless for some reason they only deal with agencies, which I doubt) you can just contact them directly and cut out any middleman's bs and $$. I just checked on the jobs page of this site, and the offers from DDD have contact details that go straight to them.
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dave ning



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LongShiKong wrote:
I just accepted a position with Shane in a small city near Shanghai. Next week I'll go for training in Shanghai.

I read all the posts (for years back) here on Dave's and searched elsewhere (found a couple of personal blogs) but couldn't find much substance to the rants. In fact, a Shanghai DoS who came to the defence of their Beijing school received more support for what he stated than the OP. I'll give you assessment within a few weeks.

It seems the more negative the post title, the less substance it actually has. That's why I've advocated the approach taken by Int'l School Review where you can find a list of schools with individual anonymous assessments rating the school on various criteria.


Thanks and good luck! I hope it turns out well.
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dave ning



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samhouston wrote:
dave ning wrote:
Thanks for your response. I did a search for DD Dragon school but there were pages and pages of results. Is there a specific title that I should look for? Thanks. I'm pretty green when I comes to looking for jobs in the ESL field in other countries, that's why I decided to choose a recruiting agency to help me out.

Best,
Dave.


http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=70333

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=73714

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=87702

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=52086

Quote:
Why is it bad to use an agency to apply for a big school? Do they tend to not care and sell you off for the commission?

As far as DDD is concerned (unless for some reason they only deal with agencies, which I doubt) you can just contact them directly and cut out any middleman's bs and $$. I just checked on the jobs page of this site, and the offers from DDD have contact details that go straight to them.


Thank you. I'm amazed by the knowledge of everyone on this board. It's so helpful. When I signed up with the Gold Star agency, I think my contact details went straight to EF (English First) in the beginning. Maybe they had a partnership with them? I told my recruiter specifically that I was not interested in working for the organization and then she finally sent me some other schools. She kept insisting that EF was a great franchise to work for. It was definitely fishy.
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LongShiKong



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re: Shane
I haven't taught many classes so far as it's a new school in a small city but Shane's coursebooks/curriculum is a vast improvement over what I'd used at Aston. There are twice as many children's course offerings including beginner levels for various ages.

The fact Shane emphasizes vocabulary/phrase drilling over the more meaningful communicative methods I've been using leaves me questioning whether it's due to their UK/Japan origin going back to 1977.
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Mr.Engrish



Joined: 22 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dave ning wrote:
samhouston wrote:
dave ning wrote:
Thanks for your response. I did a search for DD Dragon school but there were pages and pages of results. Is there a specific title that I should look for? Thanks. I'm pretty green when I comes to looking for jobs in the ESL field in other countries, that's why I decided to choose a recruiting agency to help me out.

Best,
Dave.


http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=70333

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=73714

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=87702

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=52086

Quote:
Why is it bad to use an agency to apply for a big school? Do they tend to not care and sell you off for the commission?

As far as DDD is concerned (unless for some reason they only deal with agencies, which I doubt) you can just contact them directly and cut out any middleman's bs and $$. I just checked on the jobs page of this site, and the offers from DDD have contact details that go straight to them.


Thank you. I'm amazed by the knowledge of everyone on this board. It's so helpful. When I signed up with the Gold Star agency, I think my contact details went straight to EF (English First) in the beginning. Maybe they had a partnership with them? I told my recruiter specifically that I was not interested in working for the organization and then she finally sent me some other schools. She kept insisting that EF was a great franchise to work for. It was definitely fishy.


I been in contact with Goldstar also and they also referred me to EF, well the first offer was EF Baotou which I declined.
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