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olabueno · Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 80 Location: Tampa

Q:

Broke Contract in Fujian Province a few years ago...nothing major happened...I just needed to come home a little early and I gave the school as much notice as I could.

Now, I've been offered a job in another province. I'm a little worried that my Z and/or work permit could get denied because I left a post early a few years back.

If you have solid info. on this, or can point me to a source I would appreciate it.

Thanks!

johntpartee · Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258

Did you get a release letter?

olabueno · Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 80 Location: Tampa

no...because I left the country. But, it's two years later and it's a different province. I can't find any convincing literature to confirm or deny my fears of not getting a work permit. Sad

Miles Smiles · Joined: 07 Jun 2010 Posts: 1294 Location: Heebee Jeebee

If you got an offer, you got a letter of invitation. Submit it to the Chinese consulate and there'll be no problem, especially if it's in another province. If you left on sort-of good terms, the other FAO won't do anything, especially if a year or more has passed.

I don't think there's much communication between consulates and FAO's.

olabueno · Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 80 Location: Tampa

Yeah, thanks...I just wish I could find something in writing...or listed on the embassy website regarding this. I can't just quit my job here and then get turned away when I get to China.

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

Nothing definitive to offer and you're probably not going to get what you're looking for.
Can only recount my experience as follows:
I was DTA at a college when a FT did a runner. FAO contact said he would be picked up if he tried to get another job - legally anyway.
This was in 2010 and the information was that the blacklist had just about been completely rolled out across China.
I doubt that problem teachers would be retrospectively loaded into the database and that only new cases would appear.
If the event was a while ago and you're not applying in Fujian then I think you're in the clear.
But why not 'fess up to your new employer?
If you have a good reason to offer why you quit and the new school is keen to hire you, what have you got to lose?
Have a couple of additional schools lined up just in case.

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johntpartee · Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258

I sent the OP a PM regarding my somewhat similar situation. I got the invitation letter, the Z visa, the Health Card, no problem. When I went to get the FEC, PROBLEM! My name showed up on a blacklist. However, I did NOT leave my previous Chinese employer on good terms, so it's a slightly different scene than this.

See these topics for the whole sordid tale:

"Warning! Henan Business College, Zhengzhou"
"There IS a blacklist!!!"
"NEVER thought this would happen....."

OP, just in case it doesn't work out for you like it did for me, you might consider letting your prospective employer know what happened before you come over.

olabueno · Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 80 Location: Tampa

All great comments guys...really appreciate this forum.

I emailed my old school, was told they would write a letter of rec., but not grant me a letter of release. The letter of rec. would be from a western dept. head. Not the Chinese director of the school. The letter of rec. is unnecessary as I've already been hired.

I have no prob. mentioning my early departure from Fujian w/ my new school. In fact, I'm going to ask the secretary about it first thing Monday.

I cannot/ will not part ties with my job in the states until I know I'm in the clear.

I'll let you guys know what happens.

Thanks again-

johntpartee · Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258

olabueno · Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 80 Location: Tampa