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palkorea



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: Jeonnam

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:59 pm    Post subject: Copy of diploma notarized by LAWYER? Reply with quote

Hi there. I'm in Canada, and am in the process of applying for my visa. I need to send my documents to the school. So, I have to send a notarized copy of my degree (don't want to send the original). When I went to the Korean Consulate, they told me that I have to get the degree notarized by a lawyer before THEY notarize it.

I'm becoming very confused. I know this is a new thing...they also told me I need to bring my transcripts and passport. I'm wondering if they're confused - as if I already have my confirmation number (which I don't).

I've read through other discussions here, but this detail of having the degree notarized (by a lawyer) hasn't been mentioned, to my knowledge. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks.
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When I went to the Korean Consulate, they told me that I have to get the degree notarized by a lawyer before THEY notarize it.


The BS starts from the Korean Consulate Rolling Eyes

All you have to do is take your original degree and they'll(Korean consulate) make copies and notorize them. You don't need and want any notorized stamp on your original degree.
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palkorea



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: Jeonnam

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry...they don't want my original to be notarized. My photocopy has to be 'double' notarized. I spoke to the woman while I was at the consulate, and also called the next day because it sounded so weird to me. They told me this is a new thing. It's really delaying my visa process...I have to call around to see how much people charge for notarizing. I heard it can get pretty pricey.

Just frustrating. No one in Korea has ever heard of this. When I asked the Korean Consulate here in Toronto about the documents I needed for Korea, they were like "we don't know anything about the Korean government"...???
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ChuckECheese



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

palkorea wrote:
Sorry...they don't want my original to be notarized. My photocopy has to be 'double' notarized. I spoke to the woman while I was at the consulate, and also called the next day because it sounded so weird to me. They told me this is a new thing. It's really delaying my visa process...I have to call around to see how much people charge for notarizing. I heard it can get pretty pricey.

Just frustrating. No one in Korea has ever heard of this. When I asked the Korean Consulate here in Toronto about the documents I needed for Korea, they were like "we don't know anything about the Korean government"...???


I never heard or done that before, but if they say it's a new thing that they just pull out of their asses then you better do it to get things rolling.

Sorry buddy, but welcome to Korea. That's the way it is here in Korea. People at government offices make up their own rules out of their asses sometimes.
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Novernae



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Copy of diploma notarized by LAWYER? Reply with quote

palkorea wrote:
Hi there. I'm in Canada, and am in the process of applying for my visa. I need to send my documents to the school. So, I have to send a notarized copy of my degree (don't want to send the original). When I went to the Korean Consulate, they told me that I have to get the degree notarized by a lawyer before THEY notarize it.

I'm becoming very confused. I know this is a new thing...they also told me I need to bring my transcripts and passport. I'm wondering if they're confused - as if I already have my confirmation number (which I don't).

I've read through other discussions here, but this detail of having the degree notarized (by a lawyer) hasn't been mentioned, to my knowledge. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks.


I think they probably want the transcripts and original degree as another guarantee that your lawyer-notorised copy is legit. There is no set rule; all the consulates seem to follow their own random, undefinable rulebook depending on the mood of the person you're dealing with on that day. I just sent my original as it was cheaper and easier to get it replaced rather than run around trying to get a copy notorised. I also checked out the school enough to know that it wouldn't be a problem to get it back.
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Samantha



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Location: Jinan-dong Hwaseong

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in the process of doing this myself.

Here is what I did:

1) Color photocopied the diploma

2) Went to a notary public with the copy and the original wrote out the follow statement on the "jurat"

(Full Legal name) being duly sworn, deposes and says: that this is a true copy of the Bachelors of (arts or science whichever is appropriate) degree in (major) granted (date) from (school).

Signed and dated than notarized.

3) Took this new document with the copy (they will be stapled together do not remove the staple) to the Secretary of State or one of the district offices. In Canada I don't know what your version of this is but the government ministry that oversees the notaries. Had the Secretary state do a certification document that says the notary is legit. That document is then stapled on top (again don't remove it) and stamped to show it's legit.

4) This new pack of papers will be taken to the Consulate to have them mark it as good with their stamps and translation.

This is the second time I've gone through this process and haven't run into any snags so far. All total it will cost me about $30 USD to have this done, but it'll save me about $60 if the school takes the original...I have multiple color copies that I can do this process with if necessary.

I don't know if you will be able to do this but it is an option that should satisfy everyone.
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All you have to do is let the Korean consulate make copies and notarize it. That's what I've ALWAYS done. No lawyers needed.
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Novernae



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

princess wrote:
All you have to do is let the Korean consulate make copies and notarize it. That's what I've ALWAYS done. No lawyers needed.


Except that that's not what this particular consulate is saying. The fact the YOU have ALWAYS done it that way at another consulate doesn't change the fact that the consulate the OP is going to has different 'rules'.

Anyway, palkorea, good luck. You might want to just check with your university to see about the replacement costs, (mine is only $25) might be worth it in the long run to just get another original.
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mrd



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just recently did this in Toronto, and you're right, they do require to have a photocopy notarized by a notary public. If you google search one in your area you'll be well on your way. I had the notary public notarize an extra, just in case.

Then I brought the notarized copy in addition to my originally degree, which the consulate just looks at as confirmation, in addition to a couple copies of my transcripts and the required fee for processing.

Not just any lawyer can notarize a photocopy of your degree, but instead a notary public. They are lawyers, but also a NP. This is new - with all the fake degrees floating around, Korean immigration is making sure English legal professionals are the ones who are confirming the originality of photocopied degrees and not the Korean consular staff. Simply ignore the idiot above who says its on a whim that they want it notarized. If it isn't, immigration in Korea will want your original, and the whole process will be delayed.

Best,
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palkorea



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: Jeonnam

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot everyone for your help. I did go online last night to get a list of NP to call and get prices from.

I actually did live and teach in Korea for 7 years, but I haven't had to do this for a long time as I was renewing a contract for 5 years. I have been through this process twice, and it is the first time they've asked for this. I totally understand why the rules have changed, but they're just not very clear in their explanation of what you need.

No problem to get it done, but I was just a little confused. Thanks so much for clarifying some things for me.
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Mea



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know you've already got your answer, but make sure you take your passport and transcripts with you! I called the Korean Consulate in Toronto and asked what I needed to bring, and they told me only the copies notarized by the lawyer, the original, and my passport. When I got there they notarized everything and I paid (I think $2.90 a copy), and then asked for everything back until I provided my transcripts! I couldn't go home because I had travelled 2 hours on train to get there, so they let me go to Kinko's and print my transcripts there. Actually, they wanted the username and password for my university account to look at it themselves, but I refused.

So yeah, don't forget your transcripts...
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palkorea



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so, they'll accept just a copy of my transcripts? that's good to know. i'll be sure to take one. thanks again.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

princess wrote:
All you have to do is let the Korean consulate make copies and notarize it. That's what I've ALWAYS done. No lawyers needed.


Excuse me, but why would the K-consulate do this? How do they know that the "original" diploma you're providing them is not a complete fake?
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palkorea



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
princess wrote:
All you have to do is let the Korean consulate make copies and notarize it. That's what I've ALWAYS done. No lawyers needed.


Excuse me, but why would the K-consulate do this? How do they know that the "original" diploma you're providing them is not a complete fake?


I guess that's why they now want the degree notarized by someone in Canada first - too many fakes.

I mean, it makes sense with all these problems with people faking their degrees. My problem is just that they are not clear about what they are asking for.

I'm off to the consulate tomorrow...wish me luck!
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Samantha



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Luck so am I. After they do their thing verifying the notarization it's off to a Kinko's/Post office to Fed Ex the contract and everything else to the Recruiter to get my Visa.

Do you have a position yet?
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