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it's shocking how a single meeting changes everything
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: it's shocking how a single meeting changes everything Reply with quote

i'm so annoyed with my school i could spit. in fact, i will.

<ptah!>

not sure i'll sign again. yesterday i would've in a minute. that was until i was told about all the sitting on my ass during winter vacation days i was expected to put in. i negotiated it to something reasonable, but i feel like a wreck.

Crying or Very sad i'm just too sensitive.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too sensitive? Hardly. Asking you to come into the office to do nothing when every single teacher and student is on vacation just because they have hired you for a certain time period and have no way to actually productively use you is 100% BS. Perhaps the only way those public schools who can't fill their own demand for FTs to learn that it's BS is for them to lose a few hundred more perfectly good and dedicated teachers.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: it's shocking how a single meeting changes everything Reply with quote

KWhitehead wrote:
i'm so annoyed with my school i could spit. in fact, i will.

<ptah!>

not sure i'll sign again. yesterday i would've in a minute. that was until i was told about all the sitting on my ass during winter vacation days i was expected to put in. i negotiated it to something reasonable, but i feel like a wreck.

Crying or Very sad i'm just too sensitive.


Do you teach high school? I do and for the first 3 weeks of the winter vacation some of our K English teachers will be doing morning classes.
I will be doing English conversation classes at the same time. What sucks though is that I will have to stay the whole day once my classes are finished whereas the K teachers get to go home when they are done.

I have my fingers crossed that not many kids sign up for conversation classes.

ilovebdt
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep, high school.

i feel like your avatar, ilovebdt.

edit: not to mention the stupid speeches/reminders throughout by my "minder" about how i need to devote myself to my students (but apparently only once a week, for 50 minutes per class-- no, you can't teach them twice a week! they're too busy studying!) and how *he* stays at work until 11pm and *he* goes to work on saturdays.

i should have said "yeah, and when was the last time *you* saw your family?"
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venus



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Perhaps the only way those public schools who can't fill their own demand for FTs to learn that it's BS is for them to lose a few hundred more perfectly good and dedicated teachers.


Sadly, I think we all know that losing said teachers will make no difference whatsoever...
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ilovebdt



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't you doing any winter camp or classes?

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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWhitehead wrote:
yep, high school.

i feel like your avatar, ilovebdt.

edit: not to mention the stupid speeches/reminders throughout by my "minder" about how i need to devote myself to my students (but apparently only once a week, for 50 minutes per class-- no, you can't teach them twice a week! they're too busy studying!) and how *he* stays at work until 11pm and *he* goes to work on saturdays.

i should have said "yeah, and when was the last time *you* saw your family?"


But, HE also gets half days on exam days and various other days off when I am sure you are stuck at school doing, hmmm, let's see...
That's right NOTHING!

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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love my school. They know the school district really pissed me off last year and do everything they can to reward me, especailly things that cost them nothing.
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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mind working during winter vaca. (I still get at least 4 weeks off a year.) The main trade off is that I don't have to come in on Saturdays. For me, thats worth it. I really need that two day weekend. I'll trade winter vaca for no Saturdays with no problems. My school schedules conversation classes during Winter vaca for me. ITs the best teaching I get to do all year, because there is no Korean teacher involved at all. Just me. Its great.

Kwhitehead, what was in your contract as far as vacation time? If you are supposed toget it off, I would throw a tantrum.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kat2 wrote:

Kwhitehead, what was in your contract as far as vacation time? If you are supposed toget it off, I would throw a tantrum.


part of the difficulty is what is considered a "working day". apparently, when the students are *not* here, that's still considered a working day by their reckoning, but not by mine.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im with you on this. You can read a thread I started, "I'm so freaked I dont know what to write in ....."
Exactly the same thing. They have this rich fantasy that involves me sitting in an empty office for the month of January when I could be with my wife and baby son. I don't know yet what I am going to do. There are so many benefits to staying and being able to have my family here more often, but at the same time, regardless of what the contract actually says, it is infuriatingly non-sensical to have us coming into the office every day for an hour to do nothing at all. To be sure, I will have lots of work to do, lesson plans to prepare, worksheets to write, etc. But incredibly, I have a computer AND the internet at home where my son is. What's even better, is I can understand the language on my computer at home.
You should find out who is making that requirement. The school, or someone in an office at the provincial level. In my case, it's an idiot at the provincial level.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

venus wrote:
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Perhaps the only way those public schools who can't fill their own demand for FTs to learn that it's BS is for them to lose a few hundred more perfectly good and dedicated teachers.


Sadly, I think we all know that losing said teachers will make no difference whatsoever...


because...

a) there are few or no other options available (aside from trying a new country).

b) theres always and endless supply of optimistic newbies

c) Its still better than a hagwon


the way forward is to try and sign a privately negociated contract with a school independent of GEPIK? EPIK. has anyone done this yet? Yu bum? Or are all govt schools under the hold of the despicable education boards?
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

additionally, during summer break they had me coming in for 7 hour days writing a complete textbook for three different grades.

do i have any lesson planning to do? no, it's in the goddamn book already. i wrote it. it's done. i already spend my "office hours" cross-stitching, reading random crap on the internet, posting at dave's (natch), and working my way through books. what the holy living *beep* would i be doing during those hours during "vacation"?
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to do 2.... 1hour classes in the morning and then I can go home. No problem, the students are great and there's no pressure from school or parents...game time!
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Missile Command Kid



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the way Korea is. People (well, Koreans, but this translates into foreigners too) are expected to put in time on the job. May I make a suggestion? Show up in the morning, rush around for a while, leave for a few hours, come back at the end of your shift, and say goodbye to everybody. Now, I work at a hagwon so I actually have to work this month, but when I have no classes and am expected to be at work, I bring a book. I love it. It's quiet, it's heated, I can get away from the screaming kids for a few hours, and I can have some quality time by myself. Not a lot for me to complain about. My wife, on the other hand...
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