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On the other hand
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 Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: Joe Barbera, Flintstones creator, dead |
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LOS ANGELES - Joe Barbera, half of the Hanna-Barbera animation team that produced such beloved cartoon characters as Tom and Jerry, Yogi Bear and the Flintstones, died Monday, a Warner Bros. spokesman said. He was 95.
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Flintstones re-runs were aired by a local TV station when I was in elementary school, so we'd watch it while eating our lunch in the gym. It has since occured to me that many of the jokes depended on references that were beyind the reach of most elementary school kids in the mid-1970s.
For example, when Fred impersonates the business tycoon, and all he knows how to say are the coporate catch-phrases "Whose baby is that, I'll buy that, what's your angle." I remember thinking that he was talking about an actual baby.
Not that it wasn't a cleverly written show. But I do recall reading somewhere that Scooby-Doo was actually the most popular H-B cartoon, not Flintstones as many would assume. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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One early hint of the show's hold on children came in February 1971, when the BBC pulled Scooby-Doo, Where Are You! from the air, and 70 Scottish children staged a protest outside the Beeb's Scotland headquarters. An employee recently told the Scottish Daily Record that the protest remains the biggest at that BBC location's history. But beyond making comparisons to the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew, or citing the general appeal of talking dogs, or noting that Daphne is as sexualized as a kiddie cartoon character gets, it's difficult to say exactly why the show has had such a long-standing appeal. It's not as if the show's animator, Iwao Takamoto�his other creations include the Great Gazoo of The Flintstones and Grape Ape�is an unheralded genius, a mystery-genre Tex Avery or Walt Disney. "I never got it," complained Mitchell Kriegman, the creator of Nickelodeon's Clarissa Explains It All, to the Boston Globe a few years back. "It's got kind of a slacker appeal, a no-resistance story line." Animators and children's TV creators around the world must see Scooby and ask themselves: Why can't my crappy show become iconic?
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Moldy Rutabaga
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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I loved the Flintstones when I was little. I also came home at noon and watched it with my bag lunch. CFRN in Edmonton ran that show for some thirty years and there were lots of complaints when it was stopped. I think children learn a lot from those cartoons, even if they seem a little dated now. Huckleberry Hound is an underrated cartoon as well. But I hated that fruity Great Gazoo and I never was a big Scooby fan with their repetitive story lines.
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| "Whose baby is that, I'll buy that, what's your angle." |
Hehe-- I still say that once in a while when I'm imitating a high roller.
Ken:> |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I loved the Flintstones when I was little. I also came home at noon and watched it with my bag lunch. CFRN in Edmonton ran that show for some thirty years and there were lots of complaints when it was stopped. |
Always nice to trade memories with a fellow local boy. Remember that indian that CFRN had as their mascot?
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| I think children learn a lot from those cartoons |
Admittedly, it's not a bad thing for kids to be shown things that might be a little above their immediate level of comprehension. I learned a lot(and I mean a LOT) from reading MAD Magazine in the 1970s. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| But I hated that fruity Great Gazoo |
I didn't mind Gazoo. You know that was Harvey Korman doing the voice? |
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Moldy Rutabaga
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hehe-- to this day, often when people are talking about old movies, I haven't seen them (I'm not a movie watcher)-- but I can bluff my way through because I remember the Mad parody.  I miss the old Mad before it turned into gross-out humor. It could be pretty erudite.
Didn't know Harvey Korman did Gazoo. I once read an interview where Jim Backus was complaining that he didn't get any royalties for Gilligan's Island, but he was still making a decent pension out of payments from Mr. Magoo!
CTV/CFRN seemed to lose that little indian in the 80s when things became more PC, and they don't seem to have much of an archives. I asked years ago if they had a tape of my heroic Popcorn Playhouse appearance, and they hadn't kept any episodes..
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Personally, I think Bullwinkle was his masterpiece. When I was a kid I thought it was kinda dorky. Then one day it all made sense. I don't think the Saturday morning cartoon had changed. |
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| Personally, I think Bullwinkle was his masterpiece. When I was a kid I thought it was kinda dorky. |
I'm gonna have to offer you a friendly correction on that. I'm pretty sure that Rocky And Bullwinkle was not a Hanna-Barbera production. I don't ever recall seeing the names in the credits, and according to Wiki, it was produced by Jay Ward Productions.
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Jay Ward Productions is an animated cartoon studio, founded in 1949 by American animator Jay Ward. It was best-known for producing The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show and many other films and series. The company also designed trademark characters like Cap'n Crunch, Quisp, and Quake breakfast cereals, and made numerous commercials for these products.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| The Flintstones began as a cartoon for the whole family shown in the evenings. So, the writing was originally intended to attract adult viewers. In later years, moved to Saturday morinings, it became more of a kiddy cartoon, and the dialogue followed. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm gonna have to offer you a friendly correction on that |
Yahoo ran a thing yesterday about the guy who did write it along side the one about Barbera. I kinda melded 'em together. |
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