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bellum99

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: don't need to know
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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High class ( not many)
Low class (too many)
------Same as in Canada and America. I know many pigs in Canada and America. I saw an American clean his toes at a restaurant table (no socks). I saw a Canadian fart loudly and laugh in a restaurant. Don't get on a high horse buddy...there are plenty of hillbillies in the woods back home.
------Bad manners are everywhere. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:33 am Post subject: |
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| bellum99 wrote: |
High class ( not many)
Low class (too many)
------Same as in Canada and America. I know many pigs in Canada and America. I saw an American clean his toes at a restaurant table (no socks). I saw a Canadian fart loudly and laugh in a restaurant. Don't get on a high horse buddy...there are plenty of hillbillies in the woods back home.
------Bad manners are everywhere. |
Bellum,
Do you fart or pick your toes while at the table?
Just curious, eh.
Who's the naked C.I.A. guy? Inquiring minds wanna know! |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:47 am Post subject: |
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| I once saw an Aussie pick his nose and wipe the boogers on the seat of the train we were riding. I knew then I could never claim my culture's superiority over anything. Some folks have manners, some have none. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: Re: My Korean Co-Workers Eat Like Pigs!! |
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| Roch wrote: |
This letter was posted at about 7:30pm, Korean time but then deleted some time after.
Mods: Please explain.
After suffering in silence from the pig-like sounds coming out of my Korean colleagues mouthes, one of them suddenly said to me that the Korean staff are aware that their piggish ways greatly offend and disgust Westerners but they refuse to stop behaving in such a provocative, ugly, and primitive manner.
I smiled and said nothing to the 45 year old jerk.
Any opinions out there? |
You gotta give him points for his sense of humor. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| alinkorea wrote: |
Poor table manners, especially loud chomping and eating with ones mouth open, are not part of some Korean traditional eating culture. In Korea, as in the West, it's considered polite not to eat loudly or with ones mouth open. Obviously though in Korea, a differing degree of emphasis is placed upon it.
I'm totally against the West imposing it's standards on the rest of world, be they political, social or economic. But that's not happening in this case. Korea desperately wants to be seen by the rest of the World, as a modern advanced nation. Although only a tiny detail, good table manners are part of the deal. |
Yes, there are limits. For example, I've seen a family of 'mountain folk', for lack of a better expression, slurping which such enthusiasm that they sounded as if they were trying to suck bowling balls through a straw. Everyone in the restauraut gave them the evil eye. |
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rednblack
Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Location: In a quiet place
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Old Fat Expat
I couldn't agree with you more with regards to your first post.  |
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antoniothegreat

Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Location: Yangpyeong
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Well I do take off my shoes at my house and other people's homes but since I have had 2 pairs of good sneakers stolen from the downstairs lockers I don't take off my shoes and change until I get to the teacher's room.
I am frequently frowned at and once asked why I can't change downstairs. I told them why and they were horrified. Things never get stolen here they informed me.
I have been pick pocketed twice. Once during world cup (the first one) pro job. Once recently but the thief was at least sympathtic I found my wallet shoved in my mailbox in a brown envelope...sans money but everything else intact.
At school the following have been stolen...1 mp3 player from teacher's room. In my drawer not exactly in plain sight. Money. 2 DVD's. 2 Uno games. Lent a pair of fairly nice headphones to a teacher and she lent them to someone else and weren't returned and since the person was older I couldn't demand them back without making a scene. From the Villa I lived I had one bicycle stolen and one bicycle seat stolen. Live and learn.
When I tell my co-workers (korean) they are shocked and assume it must be the other foreigners stealing the bicycles. As for the stuff missing from school...I must have lost it. Koreans simply don't steal things. So I continue to tromp upstairs and change my shoes in the teachers room and suffer the tsk tsking I get now and again. I lock up my desk even when I go to the bathroom. (a topic of conversation now and again in the teachers room) And never under any circumstances leave my classroom unattended. And lock every single cabinet because if it isn't locked up it gets "lost".
Happens everywhere but get tired of hearing how it doesn't happen in Korea. And by the way I teach in the so-called "good" middle school in my town.
Jade |
isnt it funny, how koreans lie, cheat, and steal, just like the rest of the world, but when it happens to you, the only response you get is "no, koreans dont do that. it must have been (insert other ethnic group or lame excuse here)"
just amazing. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| jaderedux wrote: |
Well I do take off my shoes at my house and other people's homes but since I have had 2 pairs of good sneakers stolen from the downstairs lockers I don't take off my shoes and change until I get to the teacher's room.
I am frequently frowned at and once asked why I can't change downstairs. I told them why and they were horrified. Things never get stolen here they informed me.
I have been pick pocketed twice. Once during world cup (the first one) pro job. Once recently but the thief was at least sympathtic I found my wallet shoved in my mailbox in a brown envelope...sans money but everything else intact.
At school the following have been stolen...1 mp3 player from teacher's room. In my drawer not exactly in plain sight. Money. 2 DVD's. 2 Uno games. Lent a pair of fairly nice headphones to a teacher and she lent them to someone else and weren't returned and since the person was older I couldn't demand them back without making a scene. From the Villa I lived I had one bicycle stolen and one bicycle seat stolen. Live and learn.
When I tell my co-workers (korean) they are shocked and assume it must be the other foreigners stealing the bicycles. As for the stuff missing from school...I must have lost it. Koreans simply don't steal things. So I continue to tromp upstairs and change my shoes in the teachers room and suffer the tsk tsking I get now and again. I lock up my desk even when I go to the bathroom. (a topic of conversation now and again in the teachers room) And never under any circumstances leave my classroom unattended. And lock every single cabinet because if it isn't locked up it gets "lost".
Happens everywhere but get tired of hearing how it doesn't happen in Korea. And by the way I teach in the so-called "good" middle school in my town.
Jade |
Damn, that is unreal! I work in a hagwon and have never had anything stolen. But, I'm a big SOB and one look from me can send them scurrying. Are you little (no offence) |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| Roch wrote: |
Again, it's the metaphorical middle finger that was stuck in my face with their sudden announcement that they know such *beep* is bad but they refuse to stop.
So, what do you suggest I do to gross them out? |
I think you're in the wrong here. Offending you = bad?
The world does not revolve around you. Some Koreans make slurping noises while eating. They did it before you got here. They aren't doing it to offend ou. they'd be delighted if you joined their custom. Why should they change just because it offends you. Do Hindus go into a mcDonalds and start shouting about the horror and profanity of people eating cows?
On the other hand, soliciting help to deliberately offend someone strips you of any rightousness you were aiming for. |
When in Rome OP. And, if you want a sure-fire way to put an end to their obnoxiousness, just play their game. Slurp MORE LOUDLY than them. Be over-the-top, slurping, smiling, doing the open mouth jutting jaw thing they do when eating ramyon in commercials, just have fun with it. They will definitely be offended, because as every waygookin knows, there are two sets of rules, one for us and one for the pure-bloods. Enjoy your lunch tomorrow, and please share the results tomorrow with us!  |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:05 am Post subject: |
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I never eat with a group of Koreans....except when someone else pays.
Not because that's the only way I do it, but it's just the way it turns out.
So I don't complain. After all, I don't even pay. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
I never eat with a group of Koreans....except when someone else pays.
Not because that's the only way I do it, but it's just the way it turns out.
So I don't complain. After all, I don't even pay. |
Eating with most Koreans is more trouble than it's worth, even with them paying. It can't be just a meal, it has to be a freaking lesson about everything. And, god forbid we get to order something WE want to eat. No, jackass wonjongnim has to take us to raw fish, raw beef, and live octopus restaurant, even though the foreign teachers have barely touched their plates the last 5 times he took them there. Get a freaking clue. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| Ilsanman wrote: |
I never eat with a group of Koreans....except when someone else pays.
Not because that's the only way I do it, but it's just the way it turns out.
So I don't complain. After all, I don't even pay. |
Eating with most Koreans is more trouble than it's worth, even with them paying. It can't be just a meal, it has to be a freaking lesson about everything. And, god forbid we get to order something WE want to eat. No, jackass wonjongnim has to take us to raw fish, raw beef, and live octopus restaurant, even though the foreign teachers have barely touched their plates the last 5 times he took them there. Get a freaking clue. |
I love the fact that you call your wonjang a jackass, and then honor his title with nim. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Qinella wrote: |
| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| Ilsanman wrote: |
I never eat with a group of Koreans....except when someone else pays.
Not because that's the only way I do it, but it's just the way it turns out.
So I don't complain. After all, I don't even pay. |
Eating with most Koreans is more trouble than it's worth, even with them paying. It can't be just a meal, it has to be a freaking lesson about everything. And, god forbid we get to order something WE want to eat. No, jackass wonjongnim has to take us to raw fish, raw beef, and live octopus restaurant, even though the foreign teachers have barely touched their plates the last 5 times he took them there. Get a freaking clue. |
I love the fact that you call your wonjang a jackass, and then honor his title with nim. |
damn you and your knowledge of the Korean language!  |
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Octavius Hite

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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For the stealing, the Koreans are world famous for their theivery. In the immediate years after the war, Korean's stole much stuff from the UN forces that the US generals told congress that theft was actually hampering USFK from being properly ready to fight off a NK invasion.
The Turks got so feed up with stealing that they used to hang Koreans from their feet for hours as punisment. There were also cases of taring and feathering.
The greatest triumph when it comes to stealing however was when the USFK built an electric fence around the entirety of Osan Air Base. The next week hundreds of Korean shacks were lined up against the fence, this was many Koreans first time having electricity in their "homes". Now thats ingenuity! |
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Doogie
Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Location: Hwaseong City
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| It still amazes me that Koreans are so thin. My co-workers also eat like they're on the verge of starvation. They eat lightning fast and they eat a ton of food. They also drink copious amounts of soju. |
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