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It Was 25 Years Ago Today ...
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Bee Positive



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

_The Covert War against Rock_ is a must read for anyone posting here.

http://tinyurl.com/87r3x

Great stuff!

Some of us lived the sixties, by the way, and can't remember it! Christ, such glorious times!

I was born in November of 68. Flame away if you will, but the sixties were probably my best decade.



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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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No it's not, except in the most pedantically literal way.


I am surprised at how often people here describe themselves without meaning to.

Why don't you just have some balls and say "I dissagree with what you said and here's why..."? My quote above looks a bit pedantic when isolated, but I actually went to explain my resoning fully. You still might not agree with my reasoning, but I laid it out clearly. I dissagreed with a statement, and explained why. If you find that pedantic and it annoys you then perhaps message boards aren't the place for you.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bee Positive wrote:
_The Covert War against Rock_ is a must read for anyone posting here.

http://tinyurl.com/87r3x

Great stuff!

Some of us lived the sixties, by the way, and can't remember it! Christ, such glorious times!

I was born in November of 68. Flame away if you will, but the sixties were probably my best decade.

Hey thanks Bee !!!

I just caught this one.

Yah, i'll second your endorsement of this publication. ( You might wanna change that link mind you as i'm currently being BLOCKED from accessing the URL you posted. )

How many "the man" has rubbed out, God only knows.

It's pretty clear that, for his part, Lennon had long been on their "TO DO" list.

The FBI had followed his every move for years, including placing people around him to keep a close watch on him & eavesdropping on all his phone conversations.

For what it's worth, his son SEAN echoes these sentiments.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FBI Releases Last Of Secret John Lennon Files
Thu Dec 21, 8:51 AM ET

LOS ANGELES, Dec 20 (Reuters Life!) - The FBI has released the last 10 documents from its secret files on slain Beatle John Lennon that had been withheld for 25 years on the ground they could prompt "military retaliation" against the United States, campaigners for their release said on Wednesday.



The files turn out to contain only well known information about Lennon's ties to left-wing leaders and antiwar groups in London in 1970 and 1971, said Jon Wiener, a history professor at the University of California, Irvine, and the Southern California chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union.

"Today we can see that the national security claims the FBI has been making for 25 years were absurd from the beginning. The Lennon FBI file is a classic case of excessive government secrecy," Wiener said in a statement.

The released documents include one that states Lennon "encouraged the belief that he holds revolutionary views ... by the content of some of his songs."

Another talks of the Beatle turned anti-war campaigner promising to finance a left-wing bookshop in London. A third describes a 1971 interview with Lennon in The Red Mole, a London underground newspaper, in which the singer "emphasized his proletarian background and his sympathy with the oppressed and underprivileged people of Britain and the world."

Wiener first requested the files in 1981. After legal action under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act that went all the way to the Supreme Court, he got most of the 300 pages in the Lennon files released in 1997.

But 10 documents remained classified on the grounds of national security. The FBI told the U.S. courts in 1983 that release of those documents could "lead to foreign diplomatic, economic and military retaliation against the United States."

Wiener, whose campaign was detailed in a book and formed the basis of the 2006 documentary "The U.S. vs John Lennon," has posted the documents on the Web site www.LennonFBIfiles.com

"I doubt that Tony Blair's government will launch a military strike on the U.S. in retaliation for the release of these documents," Wiener said.

Lennon, whose iconic song "Imagine" has become a rallying call for anti-war activists around the world, was murdered in New York in December 1980 by a "deranged" fan.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061221/en_nm/lennon_fbi_dc
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