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Weird/bitter Korean women in Hongdae
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ScottyG



Joined: 09 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is an interesting discussion.

to switch gears here, have any of you fellow GUYS ever had a girl hit on you where you shut her down? (hooker hill doesn't count)

i have.....i think? hmmm. not sure. actually i am a really nice guy and would never shoot anyone down for any reason. but i can recall times where i have been hit on by girls that i was completely uninterested in, and could not escape politely. at the risk of getting flamed, i won't say that it seems to happen quite a bit at the RMT by large waygookin ladies. the only other time i can recall being hit on and having the NO feeling was by a good friend's korean girlfriend who was really drunk, and wanted revenge on him by following me into the WC and cornered me. and then there was that time in koh samui when a ladyboy cupped me. the NO feeling was overwhelming.
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thebum



Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Location: North Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScottyG wrote:
this is an interesting discussion.

to switch gears here, have any of you fellow GUYS ever had a girl hit on you where you shut her down? (hooker hill doesn't count)


all the time
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a bird gives me the brush-off I assume she must be a lesbian. The amount of lesbos I've met in my life is unbelievable!
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does not our moral tradition dictate that Gwangjuboy gets the proverbial benefit of the doubt?



Roch,
This is what I was alluding to before. When a man or woman ask like a totally beep##, you tend to wonder if they have any feelings for others. One should at least give others the benefit of the doubt.


crazymongirl wrote:
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Why should I be polite to someone I perceive as being pushy, aggressive and rude? Again if you've misjudged the signs, and moved in too soon then chances are women may (not always) shoot you down nastily because they feel threatened by you. You may think that we just think you're being a dweeb, we think harassment and treat it as such.


This is an example of where people need to show some humanity. Crazymongirl thinks that if you move in and the women is not interested because you misjudged the signals, it is OK. She is basically saying that it is your fault. What if they woman's signals are not clear? Why is the man necessarily the one to be blamed? Maybe he just wanted to chat?
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PimpofKorea



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Dealing in high quality imported English

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a girl brushes me off...well...she better be prepared to have her feelings hurt...thats all I have to say about that.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PimpofKorea wrote:
If a girl brushes me off...well...she better be prepared to have her feelings hurt...thats all I have to say about that.


Shocked Oh no! What a horrible threat- watch out ladies! Rolling Eyes
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postfundie



Joined: 28 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sistersarah.....NO this girl does not get a break. She was needlessly rude...she's evidently learned a good amount of English but can't extend the courtesy to someone....dang her to heck and then back to heck again....I support you Gwangjuboy..
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OCOKA Dude



Joined: 04 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you who resent being shot down by K-girls they've randomly approached uninvited in various bar/restaurant/pub settings in Korea, did you really think that you could score? If you thought you could, or if you think that you deserve to be treated deferentially or with courtesy, you are soooo freaking stupid to defy belief, and it is obvious that people like the op know nothing about Korea or Korean social etiquette. (You get no points for regurgitating a few phrases you memorized from "How to Pick-up Korean Women.")

If you've ever spent time in various pulic places in Seoul, any idiot would immediately notice that Koreans socialize differently than in the West, specifically by putting a premium on private space in a public setting, and by being exclusive.

The problem is that for those of you who are comfortable with hitting on strangers at a Saturday-nite meat market/watering hole in your average po-dunk college town or neighborhood bar back home in the U.S., if you try the same s*** in Korea, you will be thought of as incredibly rude and uncouth and will be shot down mercilessly. so I'd advise to not invite yourself into other's private parties.

Koreans use pubs/bars/restaurants as an extension of their own living rooms (due to the lack of living space), to entertain friends, conduct business, be with family or lovers, etc. Koreans regard as private their dining or drinking space in a public establishment much more so than the Westerner who does not put a premium on space, and feel no qualms about invading the private space of others.

People, please show some manners, sensitivity, maturity and intelligence by not imposing, posturing, soliciting, propositioning, hitting on, or invading the space of others when in a Korean pub/bar/restaurant/coffee shop, i.e., unless you yourself are approached. It is so rude, you can't even imagine how rude it is from a Korean point of view.

This is just one of the basic rules of etiquette in Korea, and yes, it does apply to Hongdae and to a certain exxtent, in Itaewon too.
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RJjr



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OCOKA Dude wrote:
randomly approached uninvited in various bar/restaurant/pub settings in Korea, did you really think that you could score?


I think most have gone to bars, driven the lane, and taken it to the hole. I'm not saying everyone has dunked it every trip, but neither did Jordan.
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you've ever spent time in various pulic places in Seoul, any idiot would immediately notice that Koreans socialize differently than in the West, specifically by putting a premium on private space in a public setting, and by being exclusive.


This may be true in general but I don't think this applies to Hongdae. If a girl goes to Hongdae, I am sure that she is prepared to get hit on by Korean men as well as westerners.
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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People, please show some manners, sensitivity, maturity and intelligence by not imposing, posturing, soliciting, propositioning, hitting on, or invading the space of others when in a Korean pub/bar/restaurant/coffee shop, i.e., unless you yourself are approached. It is so rude, you can't even imagine how rude it is from a Korean point of view.


If it was so unacceptable, why do I see Korean dudes do the same thing in Hongdae and Itaewon? Why do some Korean men think that western women will put out easily?
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OCOKA Dude wrote:
Koreans socialize differently than in the West, specifically by putting a premium on private space in a public setting, and by being exclusive.

Are you kidding, Koreans are always invading your personal space. I know Seoul especially is very crowded but compared to Japan it's chalk and cheese. Japanese definitely respect others personal space, koreans not at all.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah.. Mr. Dude, you are way off on this one. The whole stereotype of Koreans only being comfortable with formal introductions, yada yada, just does not apply liberally to the new generations. I've been out countless times where both men and women were accepting of my random self-introductions.

You seem to be bent on bashing foreigners so as to uplift Koreans. It's possible to uplift both cultural aspects simultaneously.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
Yeah.. Mr. Dude, you are way off on this one. The whole stereotype of Koreans only being comfortable with formal introductions, yada yada, just does not apply liberally to the new generations. I've been out countless times where both men and women were accepting of my random self-introductions.


Yes and the Koreans do it with each other too. I sometimes hang out in large soju-bahngs or hofs in a small city and the young people do hit on random other people there. There will be a bet/dare/drinking game and the loser will have to walk over to a table full of people of the opposite gender and ask for a drink. After a few bottles of soju they start asking for phone numbers as well as drinks. These are all Koreans who don't know each other and who haven't been introduced formally or informally. Both male and female. These new found friends will then go off to to a noraebang together and maybe enjoy.
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For those of you who resent being shot down by K-girls they've randomly approached uninvited in various bar/restaurant/pub settings in Korea, did you really think that you could score? If you thought you could, or if you think that you deserve to be treated deferentially or with courtesy, you are soooo freaking stupid to defy belief, and it is obvious that people like the op know nothing about Korea or Korean social etiquette. (You get no points for regurgitating a few phrases you memorized from "How to Pick-up Korean Women.")


OCOKA Dude, you are a tard. Yes, there are girls who are not interested in foreigners but on average a foreigner will be treated with courosity. It is no different in England or the U.S. Many girls would treat a French guy or Latino with curiosity and would be attracked to his differentness.

The same can be said for guys. In the west many not so attractive Asian women do well because they are different. It is quite common for people to be attracted to something that is different than the norm.
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