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James Brown, The "Godfather" of soul....dead....
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Benicio



Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

James, man, James!

Like many a genius, an incredibly flawed human being!
Arrogant pr1ck? Yes.
A bit psycho? Yes.
Problems in relationships with women? Bingo, muthaf*****!

He was truly great as only a real, I mean real, bandleader can be. To lead a band of great musicians with skill and flair that just electrifies a crowd- that's a very rare talent that most of us humans do not possess.
He had some great bands with some stellar talent. Did he give them proper credit? No. He wouldn't even put their names on the albums. He was a tyrant, yes, but what musician in the funk and soul genre wouldn't give their eye teeth to do the tour of duty with soul brother number one?
I sure would have!
He was truly f***ed up with women. Yes, but there's lots of those characters in the music world- Ike Turner, Axl Rose, Chuck Berry, the list goes on and on.

He was the man! That's all there is!

Like Miles Davis, was with his different jazz bands, bringing in the new, young talent, letting them show their stuff and earn their places, then setting them free to do it like they do it- the same as Frank Zappa did with the avante garde musicians- James did it for the funk world. For that, we will be truly greatful!
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was shocked to see the news when I got up this morning.

He was incredible, as I told my students when I was teaching American music this past spring. All of the hip-hop, rap, techno you listen to even by Korean musicans got its origins with him

Saw him in Seoul in Feb, I was amazed with his energy, one of the highest energy shows i've ever been to next to Spingsteen's marathons shows.

A legend we all need to teach the next generation about
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so glad I went out to see him when he visited Korea this year! I wrote a concert review back in February, if anyone's interested.

As for his musical talent, I think Jinju has missed the point entirely with his tut-tutting about "no melody." Melody schmelody! It's funk! This guy was a ground-breaker-- I think this greatest innovation was turning his horn section into a percussive section, using the blasts to punctuate the beats. I can't explain it as precisely as I'd like to, but I don't think there's any doubt that James had originality and SOUL.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't mean this in any bad way, but i thought he passed away a few years ago. guess i was wrong.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
I'm so glad I went out to see him when he visited Korea this year! I wrote a concert review back in February, if anyone's interested.

As for his musical talent, I think Jinju has missed the point entirely with his tut-tutting about "no melody." Melody schmelody! It's funk! This guy was a ground-breaker-- I think this greatest innovation was turning his horn section into a percussive section, using the blasts to punctuate the beats. I can't explain it as precisely as I'd like to, but I don't think there's any doubt that James had originality and SOUL.


I dig it. Frank Zappa applied the same concept to jazz.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Wikipedia article gives a good summary of the ups and downs of his legendary life and career. I'm sure that a movie based on his life - probably starring Jamie Fox - will come out before too long ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown


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stumptown



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember reading an interview with Bootsy Collins in Bass Player magazine years ago and he talked about how their recording sessions with James would be intense because they would all be wasted on acid and couldn't read the notes on the music. He also mentioned how JB would fine them $100 if their shoes weren't shined enough, but the next day give them a $200 bonus.
His stuff will live on forever and never be paralleled. One of my favorite "blaxploitation" films was "Black Caesar." JB did the soundtrack and Fred Williamson was the star. Great music and great story.
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Greekfreak



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody in this country loved James Brown more than me--he was a legend in every sense of the word.

Not many musical artists have 'invented' a genre, or at least owned one so completely. Without James Brown, there would be no Sly Stone, Prince, Cameo, Rick James, Bootsy Collins, Parliament, MC5, Jane's Addiction, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Graham Central Station, Miles Davis' "Bitches Brew", just about every hip hop/rap artist alive and dead, De La Soul...

Er, scratch that last one off.

The unfortunate thing is watching so many people walking around with a 'Peace Love Power' shirt who haven't had the pleasure to listen to the brilliance of that live album.

Soul just doesn't get much better than this------Check out 5 minutes of absolute brilliance at the 3:20 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USTilaOqNHM
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JeJuJitsu



Joined: 11 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James Brown was always my cure for depression. Throw on a JB album. Depression cured.
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bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

second that jejujitsu.. i remember studying for my finals in the library feeling pretty shitty about everything, and i put a james brown live album on my portable cd and the announcer starting up with the 'jaaaaaaaaaamesss brooooooooowwnnnn... the funky president! the hardest working man in showbusiness' etc etc... instant mile-wide grin on my face.
i was lucky enough to have seen him in seoul this very year. of course, i'm so glad i went now. despite thinking he was in shanghai (haha), he rocked the place for over 2 hours and danced like a mofo. what a legend. what an absolute legend...
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
what songs? His "music" if we can call it that was just a bunch of goraning, repetive chanting and ZERO melody whatsoever.


oh MAN you are tiresome. I think you embarrass yourself enough with your lame photogalleries, do you have to add to it with your boneheaded opinions?

Anyways, one cannot say enough about James Brown. It's pratically impossible to overstate his influence on pop music. I'll just say RIP Godfather!
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greekfreak wrote:

Soul just doesn't get much better than this------Check out 5 minutes of absolute brilliance at the 3:20 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USTilaOqNHM


man, that is great. it's almost like he's a shaman or something. And yet it's so showbiz, there's such showmanship. great stuff.


Go to the middle of this vid and you can see James Brown doing the Robot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSpAp0A0BpM&mode=related&search=
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Yeolchae



Joined: 24 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is another great performance in case there are still doubters out there.

http://yeolchae.wordpress.com/2006/12/27/goodbye-to-a-true-legend-james-brown/
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