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What Are You Going To Do New Year's Eve?
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ella



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is nice! You must be in the south?
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Novernae



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ella wrote:
That is nice! You must be in the south?


Nope, I'm in Ilsan. Don't let people scare you into thinking it gets really cold here. If last year (and this year so far) are any indication, you have nothing to worry about. Last year there was one week of minus 10 (14F) or so in December and the rest of the winter hovered around 5-10 with only a few days approaching 0 (32F). This year we had a week of cold again, and it's been quite warm ever since. That, and the fact that the Korean produced flash cards I used to teach the seasons show buds on the trees in February Shocked , tells you that Korea (or at least the Seoul area) has short, mild winters no matter what some people would like to make you believe.
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Novernae, they used to be. It's called climate change.

Froze my rear off when I lived in Seoul back in the day. This year? Didnt have to dress for winter as I did back in the day till December. Used to start in October...
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've been hiking up in the mountains on New Year's Day.

An excellent idea, but isn't it a bit cold for hiking in Korea, this time of year?


Heck no. I can work up quite a sweat (and my town is freezing compared to Seoul). Just wear plenty of layers and check the weather forcast before leaving to make sure you don't get caught in a storm. Oh, and I always bring my cell phone and a pocket knife with me.
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Novernae



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EFLtrainer wrote:
Novernae, they used to be. It's called climate change.

Froze my rear off when I lived in Seoul back in the day. This year? Didnt have to dress for winter as I did back in the day till December. Used to start in October...


That's what I've been told, but non of it changes the fact that Korea has really short, mild winters now, which is what people coming here need to plan for.

(I'll limit my discussion to Seoul, because that's all I've experienced)
I find that I have to take the claims of long harsh winters in the past with a grain of salt. The fact that a Korean company could produce a flashcard for February and use buds on the tree as the best representative picture of that month shows that winters in the past 50 years have not been long nor harsh. I've talked to people who notice spring coming earlier, but for such a huge association of a month to change in such a short time is an indication to me that winters have not been very long in at least the past generation or two. If I showed the same card at home, to kids of the same age, despite the climate change we are experiencing there, they would never respond with anything earlier than May. Also, during the 'cold' snap last year, I heard nothing but incredulous complaints and surprised comments from my coworkers. Have they all forgotten the cold they experienced as kids, or even 10 years ago?

Now I'm not using some random Korean flash card or anecdotes as proof, just a contributing factor to my theory. Here are some stats from 1971-2000, showing the mean temperature and mean total precipitation (which would include rain and snow) from the World Meteorological Organization

January:
Seoul: -6.1 to 1.6 Precipitation: 21.6mm
Fredericton: -15.5 to -4 Precipitation: 109.6mm

February:
Seoul: -4.1 to 4.1 and 23.6mm
Fredericton -14.1 to -2.3 and 79.2mm


Comparing those sets of stats, Seoul has mild winters. Most of the disagreement on the board (and with Koreans) is simply a different definition of what 'harsh' and 'cold' is when it comes to winters. For me, if I can dress in February the way I would dress in May at home, it's not cold. But at the same time, I feel summers here are unbearably long, and I know a lot of people don't. If someone is from Texas or Manitoba, it's a different story, and I understand that.
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rednblack



Joined: 12 Jun 2006
Location: In a quiet place

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to drink my last bottle of bourbon, smoke my last smoke, eat my last box of fried chicken, and PM Wrench again, about how to get the beef off.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm skiing from today (saturday) til Jan 1st.

Three days of pure skiing bliss! Shocked

Hopefully I'll be night skiing, doing 50kmph down a slope as the clock goes from 2359 2006 to 0000 2007.
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