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Tobacco Dreams
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 Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:55 am Post subject: Refine your terms! |
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| Are you IGTG's sock or just a rabid anti-Semite? Frankly it's amazing that a poster gets hauled over the coals for making one drunken joke (which still doesn't excuse him) but people like you and IGTG are able to post the most loathsome appalling nonsense on here on a regular basis. |
If I state that Idi Amin was a mass-murdering psychopath, will you accuse me of being a rabid anti-African?
If I denounce Pope Pius XII for his failure to stand up to Hitler, will you call me a rabid anti-Catholic?
Never having been bitten by a dog, I do not suffer from rabies.
Bearing no animus against Semitic peoples (ie, Arabs, Jews, Ethiopians and others), I am not an anti-Semite.
Refine your terms, please, and present your arguments more persuasively.
(And no, I do not come from IGTG's laundry hamper. I live in Kangnam gu.)
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:01 am Post subject: Re: Refine your terms! |
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| (And no, I do not come from IGTG's laundry hamper. I live in Kangnam gu.) |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: Re: Refine your terms! |
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| Are you IGTG's sock or just a rabid anti-Semite? Frankly it's amazing that a poster gets hauled over the coals for making one drunken joke (which still doesn't excuse him) but people like you and IGTG are able to post the most loathsome appalling nonsense on here on a regular basis. |
If I state that Idi Amin was a mass-murdering psychopath, will you accuse me of being a rabid anti-African?
If I denounce Pope Pius XII for his failure to stand up to Hitler, will you call me a rabid anti-Catholic?
Never having been bitten by a dog, I do not suffer from rabies.
Bearing no animus against Semitic peoples (ie, Arabs, Jews, Ethiopians and others), I am not an anti-Semite.
Refine your terms, please, and present your arguments more persuasively.
(And no, I do not come from IGTG's laundry hamper. I live in Kangnam gu.)
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Tobacco Dreams.
Anti Semite was not a term created by Jews to get sympathy but a term created by someone who hated Jews as something to be proud of.
You are out to get Jews. No semantics needed.
Here is a little advice. You ought to quit and cut your loses right now.
But I would thank you for putting up that Iamthewitness site, but I think it helps my case more than it helps your case.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/
By the way did you ever hear of a poster called Bee Positive? |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Hey ...
Welcome back Joo-sock ... ya ready to "rip"? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| Nah just ready to rip up what you say. Jeff Rense supports the terrorists. |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Nah just ready to rip up what you say. Jeff Rense supports the terrorists. |
There ya go  |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Nah just ready to rip up what you say. Jeff Rense supports the terrorists. |
There ya go |
It has always been enough to take care of your posts. Though I have come to the conclusion that your posts help me out more than anything I could write. |
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Tobacco Dreams
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: Re: Refine your terms! |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Tobacco Dreams.
You are out to get Jews. No semantics needed.
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I do wish to see the state of Israel go down, in exactly the same way that I wished to see the apartheid-era government in South Africa get itself wrecked--and for exactly the same reasons.
What . . . does that make me anti-Dutch? Anti-white?
I submit to you that the state of Israel is not above criticism. I will further state that Jewish people both in general and in particular are not above it. Meyer Lansky and Bugsy Siegel were not exactly model citizens.
Crooks are crooks. Murderers are murderers.
"Race" and "religion" are irrelevant when judging these things. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Refine your terms! |
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I do wish to see the state of Israel go down, in exactly the same way that I wished to see the apartheid-era government in South Africa get itself wrecked--and for exactly the same reasons.
What . . . does that make me anti-Dutch? Anti-white? |
Well here is a good reason Israel that Bathists , Khomeni lovers and Bin Laden followers can't be be trusted to protect their minorites or govern.
Jews need protection from those types.
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| I submit to you that the state of Israel is not above criticism. I will further state that Jewish people both in general and in particular are not above it. Meyer Lansky and Bugsy Siegel were not exactly model citizens. |
Yes but why ought Israel be subjected to one sided selecitive criticism? Please answer that.
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Crooks are crooks. Murderers are murders.
"Race" and "religion" are irrelevant when judging these things. |
Yep and Israel's mortal enemies are all crooks and murderers. and Israeli Jews need protection from them.
I told you to quit and cut your loses. Carry on if you wish. You'll see. |
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Tobacco Dreams
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:59 am Post subject: Re: Refine your terms! |
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| I submit to you that the state of Israel is not above criticism. I will further state that Jewish people both in general and in particular are not above it. Meyer Lansky and Bugsy Siegel were not exactly model citizens. |
Yes but why ought Israel be subjected to one sided selecitive criticism? Please answer that.
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My intention in citing Lansky and Siegel was simply to establish that individuals of Jewish ethnicity and/or faith CAN, on a commonly agreed-to basis, turn out to be criminals.
Let's imagine that life has just been discovered on Mars. Some people are wildly enthusiastic about welcoming the newfound Martian brothers to earth. I adduce evidence that SOME Martians are BAD BUYS, adding that caution may well be in order.
Self-evidently, the existence of one or two "bad" Martians among a population of millions does NOT impugn the majority. It merely establishes that Martians are . . . well . . . as fallible as we humans. They are not gods, and should not be treated as such.
Jews, likewise, are not gods. They're people too. Israelis likewise. They should not be held above criticism. |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Refine your terms! |
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Well here is a good reason Israel that Bathists , Khomeni lovers and Bin Laden followers can't be be trusted to protect their minorites or govern.
Jews need protection from those types. |
Today's Zionists wouldn't, as you claim, even feel the need for such "protection" from Big Brother if it hadn't been so falsely & art-ifically supplanted in the region, essentially imported from the west.
We all know how historically, the peoples of British Palestine & region, regardless of faith lived in far greater harmony before Zionism made its big bloody push out onto the world political stage.
Problem, reaction, solution.
ORDO AB CHAO 
http://www.orwelltoday.com/stagedevents.shtml |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Refine your terms! |
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My intention in citing Lansky and Siegel was simply to establish that individuals of Jewish ethnicity and/or faith CAN, on a commonly agreed-to basis, turn out to be criminals. |
sure but why focus on one group or country?
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Let's imagine that life has just been discovered on Mars. Some people are wildly enthusiastic about welcoming the newfound Martian brothers to earth. I adduce evidence that SOME Martians are BAD BUYS, adding that caution may well be in order.
Self-evidently, the existence of one or two "bad" Martians among a population of millions does NOT impugn the majority. It merely establishes that Martians are . . . well . . . as fallible as we humans. They are not gods, and should not be treated as such.
Jews, likewise, are not gods. They're people too. Israelis likewise. They should not be held above criticism |
sure but why focus on one group or country?
Israel's enemies have worse records , and they won't give up their war. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:17 am Post subject: Re: Refine your terms! |
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Today's Zionists wouldn't, as you claim, even feel the need for such "protection" from Big Brother if it hadn't been so falsely & art-ifically supplanted in the region, essentially imported from the west.
We all know how historically, the peoples of British Palestine & region, regardless of faith lived in far greater harmony before Zionism made its big bloody push out onto the world political stage.
Problem, reaction, solution.
ORDO AB CHAO
http://www.orwelltoday.com/stagedevents.shtml |
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actually Israel's enemies inn 1948 they tried to expel and destroy Israel and wanted to expel or murder the Jews that were in the region. and then later on they persecuted and expelled their arab Jewish populations.
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Tobacco Dreams
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: Re: Refine your terms! |
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sure but why focus on one group or country?
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CHECKMATE!
You've just lost this argument!
You lost it by demonstrating a CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OF THE IMAGINATION!
Imagine (I'll now coach you through your losing end-game) that you were living in south Lebanon a few months ago.
If this little exercise is difficult for you, try doing it like this:
1) Close your eyes.
2) Forget everything except the fact that your name is Yusuf and you live in south Lebanon. You manage a pet shop. You are a Marionite Christian in good standing. You speak Arabic as your native language. Your favorite band is Radiohead.
3) From out of nowhere, bombs start falling. In one moment, your wife is killed. Your son is killed. Your two daughters are killed. Your goldfish are killed. Your business has been wrecked. Your family is no more.
4) Think very hard now, Joo Rip--I know you can do it! Think very, very hard!
5) Are you now focussing on "ONE GROUP OR COUNTRY"?
Checkmate, end of game, you lose. |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Refine your terms! |
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actually Israel'e enemies
sided with the Nazis and persecuted and expelled their Jewish populations.
In 1948 they tried to expel and destroy Israel and wanted to expel or murder the Jews that were in the region. |
With all due respect, the so-called evidence you present smells of a really bad red-herring.
The state of Israel came into being in 1948, and with the UN's backing.
The position you aim to promote, that there unequivocally was ZERO collusion between Zionists & the Nazis,
is entirely all too naive.
Surely you know better Joo.
Zionism in the Age of the Dictators 
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ |
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