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khyber
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Hollywoodaction
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| How fitting. Truth as North Koreans see it is a group hallucination. |
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soviet_man
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Similar to the equally shocking and bizarre practice of westerners celebrating their lame supernatural events such as say ... Christmas? |
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mateomiguel
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| no, no its not similar at all. |
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jinju
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:34 am Post subject: |
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| soviet_man wrote: |
| Similar to the equally shocking and bizarre practice of westerners celebrating their lame supernatural events such as say ... Christmas? |
Heres the difference. Jesus wasnt a pyschopathtic PIECE OF SHIT dwarf with a huge complex and a father who might as well have eaten shit as he was lower than a dung beatle. Jesus didnt enslave, murder, starve hundreds of thousands of people. See the difference? |
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soviet_man
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Jinju,
Kim Jong Il is an observable, measurable and verifiable quantity.
A man whom may or may not have existed 2000 odd years ago, is not.
Using those two examples, I would argue the burden of proof firmly remains upon the believers of the latter, not non-believers of the former, to justify their scientific belief in supernatural phenomena. Of which, they can't. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| Afraid he's got you there. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| A man whom may or may not have existed 2000 odd years ago, is not. |
A Christ certainly existed. Tacitus references him in his Annals.
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| But not all the relief that could come from man, not all the bounties that the prince could bestow, nor all the atonements which could be presented to the gods, availed to relieve Nero from the infamy of being believed to have ordered the conflagration, the fire of Rome. Hence to suppress the rumor, he falsely charged with the guilt, and punished Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their center and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| soviet_man wrote: |
Jinju,
Kim Jong Il is an observable, measurable and verifiable quantity.
A man whom may or may not have existed 2000 odd years ago, is not.
Using those two examples, I would argue the burden of proof firmly remains upon the believers of the latter, not non-believers of the former, to justify their scientific belief in supernatural phenomena. Of which, they can't. |
I dare you to tell that to him upon his return. |
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Hollywoodaction
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| And I quote Kim Jong Il, as told to Shin Sang-Ok, the South Korean movie director who was kidnapped by North Korean agents, "It's all a lie. They're just pretending to praise me". |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Jesse Jackson should try to get him into his flagging "Rainbow Coalition", and Michelle Wie might be wise to get some golf tips from him (... eleven holes-in-one in a single round!  ) |
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khyber
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Kim Jong Il is an observable, measurable and verifiable quantity.
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Sorry...this thread was about the existence of the "halos", not the existence of Illy. |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Apparently these features are more common than thought. You just have to look up.
Personally i've once seen a perfect Moon halo, caused by ice crystals in the night sky.
"Now that I've cultivated the simple habit of looking up a dozen times a day, I've found scarcely a week passes without some reward--be it solar halos, sun dogs, crepuscular rays (shafts of sunbeams and shadows from behind puffy cumulus clouds), circumzenithal arcs (a rainbow-colored "ice bow" arc half-encircling the zenith), sun pillars, or�now, the complete parhelic circle."
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/24oct_sunrings.htm |
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4 months left
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| NAVFC wrote: |
| soviet_man wrote: |
Jinju,
Kim Jong Il is an observable, measurable and verifiable quantity.
A man whom may or may not have existed 2000 odd years ago, is not.
Using those two examples, I would argue the burden of proof firmly remains upon the believers of the latter, not non-believers of the former, to justify their scientific belief in supernatural phenomena. Of which, they can't. |
I dare you to tell that to him upon his return. |
When's she coming?? |
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