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Hawkeye1



Joined: 25 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Cost of Visa Trip Reply with quote

Hi,i'd really appreciate it if someone can help us out please as we have not met many people here yet and so have no reference point for this problem!
This is our first teaching job abroad and when our Director mailed us our visa(issuance) numbers we thought they were our actual visa numbers.It didn't help that the the mail said :'your visas have been issued,here are your visa numbers'.So now our Director wants us to pay for our Visa Run,he says its our fault that we didn't know the procedure and we must foot the bill.In my eyes the fault rests with him for not informing us fully.
So what do ye think?should i stand my ground or do people here regularly pay for their Visa Runs?
Thanks for your help.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most foreign teachers in Korea do NOT pay for their visa run, at least not their plane ticket. Follow your contract. Is the cost of a visa run included? If yes, then hold your boss to it. If no, they you are out of luck.
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Hawkeye1



Joined: 25 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool,thanks,i don't think there's anything in the contract about a visa run though because he thought we'd have it sorted by the time we came.a compromise might be the answer?
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you don't have a visa, he doesn't have a worker. I think a compromise might be due.

How did you get here? On a tourist visa? If you don't have a visa yet, you may be able to bail and find a different job with a more-honest employer. I don't know the legality of that, though.

Anyone have an idea?
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hang on...

let's see if I've got the story straight.

1. Director mailed you visa numbers
2. You didn't apply for you visas in-country
3. You flew to korea without a work visa

That's your fault. The director shouldn't pay.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's your fault. The director shouldn't pay.


That's a little rough.
It was an honest mistake by someone who didn't know Korean immigration law, but the director knows Korean immigration law.
The director still CAN pay, and probably SHOULD pay, but there's no legal requirement. But, there's also no legal requirement for the OP to work at a school where the BS games have already started. It's a bad sign that a director wants to "nickel and dime" a legal requirement.

OP- consider leaving that school ASAP. The owner/director may have lots of other "nickel and dime" BS for you.


Just my opinion. The handwriting is on the wall, OP- it's not a good sign that the director wants to play "gotcha" about contract items.
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swetepete



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: a limp little burg

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A similar thing happened to me a couple of years ago. Through bad recruiting and miscommunication, I arrived on a tourist visa and was expecting to be sent over to Japan on the visa run. Upon arrival I was told it was up to me to pay for that. I was very angry and eventually got the recruiter to pay half of the expense, but I thought it was so incredibly cheap of my boss, I never forgave him.
Things got better at that school as time went on, but I never really got past thinking of him as a chiselling nickel'n'dime scumbag. Even now, those are the words that pop into my head when I think about him.
To be fair, he was always quite honest and good afterwards, but that first bad step really tainted the whole relationship.

Happily he sold the hagwon after a few months so I didn't have to work for him anymore. I guess he wasn't as bad as I thought he was at first, but still...he was rich, he could've just sucked up the expenses and had a much happier Pete-teacher.

Were you working through a recruiter? Somebody should have told you the deal with visa runs. Your boss should have told you. You guys seem pretty innocent as far as I'm concerned. Probably your boss is a toad.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
hang on...

let's see if I've got the story straight.

1. Director mailed you visa numbers
2. You didn't apply for you visas in-country
3. You flew to korea without a work visa

That's your fault. The director shouldn't pay.


I'm gonna add #4 here...

4. The school already paid for your flight here?

If that is true, I agree and the OP should pay for it. It's not cheap of the boss to not want to fork out another 600.000 won or so after already paying for the ticket.

Maybe agree to pay for the airfare but get a little to help pay for the hotel and stuff. There is no way the OP should get a fully-funded VISA run.

KPRROK
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you had an opportunity to get the visa done in your own country but didn't (even if it was a misunderstanding which could have been cleared up anyway) YOU really should pay...

If you came over here without being issued a visa through some fault of your boss and your boss is sending you to japan then YOUR BOSS should pay...

By the sounds of it a compromise is in order...maybe 50/50 however it doesn't make your boss a *beep* if he doesn't pay....your recruiter really should have explained the procedure to you much better.
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