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charlieDD



Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Those in-apartment public address systems Reply with quote

How often does your building management get on the public address system?

When it came on the first time, how did you feel? ( I felt a total privacy invasion! Big Brother! )

What's the silliest thing you've heard them announce? The most urgent?

Have you been tempted to cut the wires? ( I know a guy who has! )

Does the neighbor's smoke vent in through yours? ( Mine did; had to tape it over with clear cellophane tape to seal it. BTW, Neighbor's cooking smells find their ways into my apartment through the walls and ceiling somehow. Mind you, the building is new, sort of high end, less than two years old; how did it ever pass health code? {{ Most cities / states, etc. require there be no sharing of air among apartments in order to avoid an airborne disease infecting the whole building.}} )

"bing, binG, biNG, bING, BING!" Mad
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oneofthesarahs



Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahahahaha...I never know what they're saying because not only is my Korean quite bad, but they also only announce things when I'm half asleep in the morning. So hopefully they never announce "Please evacuate. The building is on fire." Ding DING ding!
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't like the announcements. I used to think they were kinda cool, but now just annoying. I would certainly snip the wires if not for the fact that I'd have to stack a chair on the dining table to reach that high. Too scary.

The announcements are always totally pointless. Like, when they were going around to various apartments to do repairs that would be very noisy, they would first announce that they were gonna do it. So it's like, they make sure everyone in the building is bothered by the construction rather than just those who have to hear the drills.

There's never once been an important announcement. It's always about the elevator being closed, or some floor's hall being waxed.. and they always repeat the announcement twice. Sucks sucks sucks.
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attention. Whoever's car is blocking the other cars in the parking lots, can you please come and move it right now. Thank you.

Attention. Your water will be shut off in about five minutes. We have to clean the water tank. You won't have any hot water for the next week. Please go to the sauna if you must have a hot shower.

Attention. No water of any kind will be available after 10 am tomorrow and until 6 pm.

Attention. Please remember not to use your washing machines late at night, as the noise disturbs your neighbors. Thank you.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: Those in-apartment public address systems Reply with quote

charlieDD wrote:
Have you been tempted to cut the wires? ( I know a guy who has! )


Yep, every matrix-i-fied (UBIQUITIOUS) apt. i've lived in. snip snip ... good - bye, go away, leave me alone Wink

If i wanna talk to you, don't worry, you'll hear from me Idea
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took the cover off mine and stuffed some fabric and cardboard to mute the sound before
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Tobacco Dreams



Joined: 05 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: CULTURE SHOCK! Reply with quote

It's so freaking Orwellian, ain't it?

And just that much worse if you either don't understand, or only get the gist of it (as I tend to do).

So far, what I've worked out is that since

a) I don't have a car which needs moving

and

b) I don't park a bicycle out in the corridor

I can pretty well ignore the announcements.

To anyone who DOES have a car, or a bike:

Just move it an apartment block down the street each time you hear an announcement. Then retrieve it the next day. That ougtta do the job.
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helly



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: WORLDWIDE

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My old apartment used to advertise what was on special in the local supermarket. No joke.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corporal wrote:
Attention. Your water will be shut off in about five minutes. We have to clean the water tank. You won't have any hot water for the next week. Please go to the sauna if you must have a hot shower.

Attention. No water of any kind will be available after 10 am tomorrow and until 6 pm.

Ah, the joyous memories of apartment living, Korea-style. It's all coming back now like the rice, kimchee and litre of cherry soju I had last night.

But I'm with you all the way on this one, Corporal. (And a late Merry Christmas! Smile ) The rest of you just don't know what all of the announcements are saying (and lying about your ability to fully understand them) and/or you're not there when the truly urgent and useful ones are broadcast. In addition to the ones Corp has listed, my favourite was the perverted/drunken-sounding ajosshis who'd get on the microphone any old hour of the day they pleased and say: "...huh....huh-huh...huh....huh, huh, huh Twisted Evil ....huh huh...", and then just stop. Boy, that one never got old. Shocked (Yeah, I know they were just testing the system. But c'mon, how many times a week do they need to test it?? And why can't Koreans realise how �ber-creepy those guys sound?)

Corporal has given you the thoughtful, pragmatic reasons why you all need to STFU about the in-home PA system. Now here's Guru with the legal, "my-big-doc-martens-up-your-whiny-little-ass" perspective. I'm reading that some of you have disconnected or muffled the PA speakers. I hope that's just a stupid joke. Look, you tenants have no right and no business tampering with that equipment, it doesn't belong to you. You tenant, me landlord, and if I find out you've been mucking with it, you can kiss your deposit good-bye. (well, you weren't getting that back in any case, but now I've got an excuse to stick you for it)
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Dysupes



Joined: 24 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The apartment PAs are absolutely and without a doubt the most useless and annoying invasion of privacy in Korea. Not only has there not been ONE announcement of any importance in the year we've been living here but they also seem to make the conscious choice of announcing the same damn things over and over again at the most delightful times (the best one was 7am on a Saturday). Today, we did hit rock bottom though. Usually it's the usual crap like Corporal mentioned but today they, and I'm really not joking, came on to tell us that... "It's cold." They went into further detail but really, they came on and disturbed the entire building to tell us the temperature outside. It definitely tops the monthly announcements telling everyone the penultimate and ultimate days of the month that they do in fact have to pay all their bills in the next day or so. And this message is not only essential but important enough to repeat four times over two days. I kinda wish that Korean people could operate and function as independent people sometimes (my wife who is Korean dislikes all that crap too so I'd have to say I got me a good one! Very Happy)...

Dysupes
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corporal wrote:
Attention. Whoever's car is blocking the other cars in the parking lots, can you please come and move it right now. Thank you.

Attention. Your water will be shut off in about five minutes. We have to clean the water tank. You won't have any hot water for the next week. Please go to the sauna if you must have a hot shower.

Attention. No water of any kind will be available after 10 am tomorrow and until 6 pm.

Attention. Please remember not to use your washing machines late at night, as the noise disturbs your neighbors. Thank you.


Same - same
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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="JongnoGuru"]

In addition to the ones Corp has listed, my favourite was the perverted/drunken-sounding ajosshis who'd get on the microphone any old hour of the day they pleased and say: "...huh....huh-huh...huh....huh, huh, huh Twisted Evil ....huh huh...", and then just stop. [quote]

This is the funniest thing I've read on here in ages! You aren't the only one with Beavis and Butthead making announcements- those two seem to get around quite a bit~
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow- this is just insane. I thought I had it rough with the blue vans selling dead squid. I saw in a documentary about north korea that every house has a radio tuned to government station which you can turn down but never off. Orwell has not left the building it seems.

My advice is to buy a screwdriver and take it to those speakers. Not your property? well it's not their privacy or sanity.
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superacidjax



Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
I'm reading that some of you have disconnected or muffled the PA speakers. I hope that's just a stupid joke. Look, you tenants have no right and no business tampering with that equipment, it doesn't belong to you. You tenant, me landlord, and if I find out you've been mucking with it, you can kiss your deposit good-bye. (well, you weren't getting that back in any case, but now I've got an excuse to stick you for it)


As I have signed no lease and my school contract has nothing in the contract regarding removal or neutralization of said PA speaker, there isn't a legal issue involved. Unless I physically damage the premises, unhooking a wire (not cutting) isn't violating anything.

Besides, if one were to apply typical USA leasing standards, a tenant has a right to not be bothered by the Voice of God at 7am on a Saturday morning. In my building, there about a large number of English speakers, so why don't they do the announcements in both languages? After all, the apartments are NOT doing us a service by letting us live there, WE are the customers. I speak a little Korean, but there is nothing more annoying than a rapid-fire old man telling me the water's going to be turned off in a language I can barely understand. If Itaewon or perhaps the airlines stopped speaking English, what would happen to business?

I'm from Texas where there is a large number of Mexican migrants and immigrants so I know both sides of the language debate. In Texas, people like to scream about "English Only," but from an economic perspective, a country, state or business should look at the demographics of their customers and prepare accordingly. So when my apartments post notices in the elevator about "electrical work, no power for six hours" or a stupid 7am announcement about someone's car blocking the road, I get rightly pissed off about it. I don't run into the security office and start yelling at them in rapid-fire English when I'm locked out. I attempt Korean, because I'm speaking to Koreans. But when they're speaking to me, demanding MY attention, then damn it, speak MY language.

I'm sure I opened a can of worms, but I'm tired of feeling like I have to resent my bad Korean skills, when Koreans brought me here to teach English.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

superacidjax wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:
I'm reading that some of you have disconnected or muffled the PA speakers. I hope that's just a stupid joke. Look, you tenants have no right and no business tampering with that equipment, it doesn't belong to you. You tenant, me landlord, and if I find out you've been mucking with it, you can kiss your deposit good-bye. (well, you weren't getting that back in any case, but now I've got an excuse to stick you for it)


As I have signed no lease and my school contract has nothing in the contract regarding removal or neutralization of said PA speaker, there isn't a legal issue involved. Unless I physically damage the premises, unhooking a wire (not cutting) isn't violating anything.

Das macht nichts. I'm sure there is also nothing in your contract expressly prohibiting you from tampering with the fusebox, the plumbing, the lights in the corridors or the elevator ceiling panels. We can muck around with all sorts of things without actually damaging them, but we're not supposed to. And the public address system, more than other features, is especially sacrosanct given Korea's national security circumstances.

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Besides, if one were to apply typical USA leasing standards, a tenant has a right to...

Let's not. Let's not apply those typical USA standards. Good standards they may be, but we're not in the USA. We're up here on freedom's frontier. This ain't no fooling around.

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In my building, there about a large number of English speakers, so why don't they do the announcements in both languages?

Korea's not able yet. Isn't that why you're all over here teaching English?

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After all, the apartments are NOT doing us a service by letting us live there, WE are the customers.

I understand this, but the PA system is not some optional feature created for the merriment of tenants. Try to think of it more along the lines of an in-house air-raid siren and then you'll begin to appreciate (a) how it's intended, and (b) why it's not something to be trifled with by tenants, even those who don't speak Korean.

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I'm sure I opened a can of worms, but I'm tired of feeling like I have to resent my bad Korean skills, when Koreans brought me here to teach English.

Koreans may have hired you and paid for your air ticket, but you still came of your own accord, surely. But it's natural to feel annoyed that you can't understand the announcements.

Okay, okay -- I've just been playing the hard-assed Teufels Advokat. Go ahead and rip that b@stard out! Razz I hated the things when I used to live in apartments. I guess I just want everyone else to suffer as I did! Twisted Evil At one place I lived, the speaker wire wasn't properly connected or something, and it was so faint. Like a crackling whisper. I didn't bother having it inspected, but one time the maintenance people were fixing something in my place when an annoucement was broadcast.

Right away they called down and had someone bring up a new speaker and installed it. I begged them not to install it, but short of physically restraining the THREE of them, they would not be put off. After it was installed, the announcements were thunderously loud. Another time (same apartment) I asked if they could see about my doorbell, because it seemed to my ears far, far louder than it needed to be. It was an old model. They detatched the box from the wall and showed me a volume switch on the back. It had two settings: LOUD! and SUPER-FARKING-LOUD!!... it had originally been set to LOUD! Shocked Fun times.
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