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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| Five Eagles, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand you to say that Christian leaders are more constructive than leaders who are not Christian. |
Complicated question, because there are many things to factor in. Some of the greatest Christian leaders of the church have been relatively unknown. Jesus died a criminal's death in obscurity. Paul, Peter and the other disciples were either beaten, tortured or persecuted for their success. Yet, there testimony continues on today. Where the wisdom of their actions will echo for eternity. Thomas Kincade, a famous christian author is relatively unknown, but has made incredible impact in the kingdom of God. Not indicative of success in a worldly sense.
I am assuming you mean political leaders of governments right? Well, like you have said, sometimes people will use Christianity as a platform to push through dangerous agendas.
Like you have said, Hitler confessed Christian ideals. In the same breath, he also killed Pastors and anyone who stood against him. Not exactly, a "What would Jesus do" kinda guy. Satan uses Christians for his purposes as one of his main strategies of war.
The thing is Jesus said there will never be peace until He establishes His kingdom on earth. Anyone who has a plan for world peace without God reigning is full of it.
There will never be world peace because of Israel. There will never be peace in Israel, until Jesus comes back to establish His kingdom in Zion. Trading land for peace will never work. The muslims want it. Israel will not give it up. Nothing will ever be peaceful about this.
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmmmmm ... yes ... i's for some time now been wondering when we were going to hear more on this story ...
Mystery "Buddha" Boy Goes Missing
Sat Mar 11, 8:45 AM ET
KATHMANDU (Reuters) - Nepali police began hunting on Saturday for a teenaged boy who some people believe
is an reincarnation of Buddha after he disappeared from the site where he had been meditating for almost 10 months.
Fifteen-year-old Ram Bahadur Bamjon has not been seen since early Saturday, said Hari Krishna Khatiwada,
a district official of Bara, 150 km (95 miles) southeast of Kathmandu.
The boy had been meditating there without food or water since May. Some of his followers are also missing.
"So far we have found no trace of them," Khatiwada said.
Sitting cross-legged beneath a "pipal" tree, which is sacred to Hindus, Bomjon drew more than 100,000 people to the dense forests in southeastern Nepal.
But visitors were only allowed to see him from 50 metres (165 feet) away and the boy was hidden from public view at night behind a curtain drawn by his followers.
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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:57 am Post subject: |
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There's no way that this boy, or anyone else, could be the reincarnation of Buddha, because Buddha reached Nirvana.
When that happens, you escape from the cycle of birth/death/rebirth, and are re-born no more.
This is very basic, -Buddhism 101. |
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe he got reincarnated suddenly again? The police could at least have taken into custody the cicada found clinging to the empty tree. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| He's out for lunch. |
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ChimpumCallao

Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: your mom
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| Troll_Bait wrote: |
There's no way that this boy, or anyone else, could be the reincarnation of Buddha, because Buddha reached Nirvana.
When that happens, you escape from the cycle of birth/death/rebirth, and are re-born no more.
This is very basic, -Buddhism 101. |
yah. plus religion is bullshiznit.
i just read this nepal kid's ass is MIA.
the stupid stuff that comes out of asia...i can't believe people still buy into this whole mysticism stuff just because its from far away. Anything Steven Segal is into, I immediately try to avoid. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Nepalese Buddha Boy ��reappears��
BBC News
March 20, 2006
A MISSING Nepalese teenager popularly known as ��Buddha Boy�� reappeared briefly on Sunday, his followers say.
The committee managing the meditation site of Ram Bomjan, 16, released video of its members purportedly meeting the boy near his village in southern Nepal.
The boy��s meditation and apparent 10-month fast attracted global attention before he vanished in March.
Large numbers of devotees flocked to see him to leave offerings. A massive search operation is still under way.
The chairman of the Om Namo Buddha Tapaswi Sewa Samiti (ONBTSS), Bed Bahadur Lama, told reporters that
he and his colleagues had met Bomjan about 3km (2 miles) south-west of his meditation site in Bara district on Sunday.
He said Bomjan had spoken to them for half an hour.
Ram Bomjan��s meditation has attracted many devotees
��He said he would reappear after six years. He has asked monks to perform prayers in the meditation spot,�� Mr Lama told reporters.
��I left because there is no peace here�� Tell my parents not to worry,�� Mr Lama quoted Bomjan as saying.
The alleged meeting is the first news of the boy��s possible whereabouts since he disappeared on 11 March. District authorities say they cannot confirm the sighting.
Bomjan��s followers and security personnel have launched a massive search operation in Ratnapuri forest and surrounding areas but have so far failed to locate him.
Bomjan��s followers claim he was an incarnation of Lord Buddha who was born in Nepal more than 2,500 years ago.
His followers say he has been meditating for 10 months without food or water and is immune to fire and snake bites.
But these claims have not been independently verified. Scientists were unable to examine the boy as his followers said it would disturb his meditation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4824530.stm |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:20 am Post subject: |
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He's baaaaaaaaaaaackkkk...
Nepal's Mystery "Buddha Boy" Reappears
By Gopal Sharma
Mon Dec 25, 11:02 AM ET
KATHMANDU (Reuters) - A mysterious teenaged boy believed by some to be a reincarnation of Lord Buddha has reappeared in eastern Nepal after vanishing for nine months, a witness and a television channel said on Monday.
Sixteen-year-old Ram Bahadur Bamjon was spotted on Sunday by villagers in the remote and dense forests near Piluwa village in Bara district, 150 km (95 miles) east of Kathmandu, local journalist Raju Shrestha, who visited the boy, told Reuters.
Bamjon disappeared in March from the forests in nearby Ratanpuri village where he had reportedly been meditating without food or water for almost 10 months.
"I have been wandering in the forests since then," Shrestha quoted Bamjon as telling him.
"I am engaged in devotion which will continue for six years," the boy told Shrestha.
Hundreds of curious onlookers, including many Buddhists, thronged the site to see the boy, sitting in a meditating position.
A local TV station showed people pressing their palms together and lowering their heads in devotion in front of him.
"I don't think he is a Buddha. But he has some sort of extra strength to meditate. He eats herbs," Shrestha said.
Before his disappearance, an estimated 100,000 people from Hindu-majority Nepal and neighboring India flocked to see him meditate.
They were not allowed to get closer than 50 meters (165 feet).
Shrestha, who met the boy up close, said he had shoulder-length hair and sat cross-legged under a small tree.
"He has an ash-color shawl wrapped across his chest," he said, adding the boy had a "flat-ended scimitar" next to him.
Buddha was born a prince in Lumbini, a dusty village in Nepal's rice-growing plains about 350 km (220 miles) west of the capital Kathmandu more than 2,600 years ago.
He is believed to have attained enlightenment at Bodh Gaya in the eastern Indian state of Bihar, which borders Nepal.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061225/wl_nm/nepal_boy_dc_1 |
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Manner of Speaking

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| Troll_Bait wrote: |
There's no way that this boy, or anyone else, could be the reincarnation of Buddha, because Buddha reached Nirvana.
When that happens, you escape from the cycle of birth/death/rebirth, and are re-born no more.
This is very basic, -Buddhism 101. |
Um, yes...as a practicing Buddhist this was the first thing that struck me when I read this story. If the Buddha has reached Enlightenment and there are no new lives in store for Him...how can this teenager be the reincarnation of the Buddha?
Some people in this world are very confused. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
| Troll_Bait wrote: |
There's no way that this boy, or anyone else, could be the reincarnation of Buddha, because Buddha reached Nirvana.
When that happens, you escape from the cycle of birth/death/rebirth, and are re-born no more.
This is very basic, -Buddhism 101. |
Um, yes...as a practicing Buddhist this was the first thing that struck me when I read this story. If the Buddha has reached Enlightenment and there are no new lives in store for Him ... how can this teenager be the reincarnation of the Buddha?
Some people in this world are very confused. |
Bodhisattvas desire to return / appear in this world / form only for the benefit of others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva
TURN TURN TURN ... |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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My understanding is that there are two Buddha's, one being an avator of Vishnu (infinite God...) and the other being an empowered jiva-soul (infinitessimal atomic particle of God...)
Jesus is an empowered jiva-soul, while Christ refer's to God the Father (infinite...) They are one in desire to bestow mercy on the fallen, conditioned souls.
Buddha also figures in the divine plan in an indirect way by extending mercy to animals while preaching a non-theistic philosophy and inspiring atheists to practice devotion to an incarnation of God.
Krishna is the source of all incarnations and avatars...
India has always been the main center of spiritual culture on this planet.
People like "Chimpum Calleo", living in remote regions and blinded by the glitter of materialism, apparently don't have a clue regarding absolute truth (though she's not bad looking ... )
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Bodhisattvas desire to return / appear in this world / form only for the benefit of others. |
Yes, but they are A Buddha, not THE Buddha.
He went away, never to come back. |
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Manner of Speaking

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| KATMANDU, Nepal - A teenage boy has been meditating in a Nepalese jungle for six months, and thousands have flocked to see him, with some believing he is the reincarnation of Buddha, police and media said Wednesday. |
If he or others are claiming he is THE Buddha, not A Bhodisattva, then they are confused. He may very well be a Bhodisattva, but nobody is claiming that he is. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| twg wrote: |
| igotthisguitar wrote: |
Bodhisattvas desire to return / appear in this world / form only for the benefit of others. |
Yes, but they are A Buddha, not THE Buddha.
He went away, never to come back. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buddha_claimants
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| A 17-year old Nepalese ascetic who many have hailed as a new Buddha. According to his brother Gangajit, a "very clear and white" light "different from sunlight" emanated from his head. On November 8, 2005 Dorje arose and said to the public, "Tell the people not to call me a Buddha. I don't have the Buddha's energy. I am at the level of rinpoche." Despite his protestations of not having attained enlightenment, many continue to insist he is a buddha. |
Sorry, it's the best source I can find right now. But the transformation from "a buddha" to "the buddha" may merely be a manifestation of the Western press. Can anyone here state with assurance whether he is referred to as "a buddha" or "the buddha" in the vernacular? What's the article situation in Nepali? |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| Siddhartha left the cycle of suffering. He was not reincarnated. That's the entire basis of the philosophy. He is who we refer to when we call him "The Buddha" |
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