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1.8 at Kyungpook?

 
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yakey



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: 1.8 at Kyungpook? Reply with quote

Anybody else think that's way too low for the job?

Seems to me when I applied there a few years ago they were at 2.0 (which I said no to) and talking about possible increases. Now they take a step back with 1.8. And this is a huge university. Who sets the salaries at this place, the Grinch who stole Christmas?
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: 1.8 at Kyungpook? Reply with quote

yakey wrote:
Anybody else think that's way too low for the job?

Seems to me when I applied there a few years ago they were at 2.0 (which I said no to) and talking about possible increases. Now they take a step back with 1.8. And this is a huge university. Who sets the salaries at this place, the Grinch who stole Christmas?

Yes.

Standard is 2.1 in hagwons now. Unless they're giving you massive amounts of overtime pay and loooooooooong paid vacations it strikes me as crap.
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coolsage



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, salaries at unis are being rolled back, while conditions decrease. The hagwonification of unis continues, thus discouraging the best and brightest from doing what we do so well. At my U, the president (who to the best of my knowledge has never set foot in the English Lang and Lit Dept), decided to enforce the 'three-year-rule' with a vengeance, essentially gutting the dept of all its native speakers. Korean 'planning' at its finest; throw out the people who by now have a sense of what they're doing, and replace them with a crew who don't have a clue, yet, in order to shave a few won off the budget, which will go, no doubt, to enhance the lavish offices of the powers-that- be. Those powers decided to back off a bit, and as a face-saving gesture, agreed to rehire those of us who in turn agreed to sign a contract that puts us back at the original salary. I've been at this place for four years, and I'm certain that the cost of living has increased by at least 15% during those years, so that is insult enough. In addition, they would have me teach kids' classes, and shrink my vacation as well. Enough. Korea has been good to me, but it stops now. My talents are better used elsewhere. And to all, a good night.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it seems to me that the universities have too much control over hiring of teachers and decididing the contract terms. This b.s. about teaching kids, summer/winter camps and not receiving the full holidays is crazy. Why does the MoE allow schools to have so much control? Bringing in new teachers ever 3 years isn't good for the students or the school.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:43 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

1.8 is an insult. They can have me 3 days a week for that much. No more than 3 days. Or maybe just mornings.
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:30 am    Post subject: Re: yes Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
1.8 is an insult. They can have me 3 days a week for that much. No more than 3 days. Or maybe just mornings.


Yes, 1.8 for uni job is an insult!

They can get a sniff of my fart for that.
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makemischief



Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: Traveling

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just a quick note/devil's advocate:

1.8 is for the actual English department position (4 months vacation- 12 hours a week).

2.0 is what the "language institute" starts at (for MA's) and thats with 2 months vacation and 18 hours a week.

still seems quite low- but dr. finch (in the English department- not the institute) would be fun to work with. he's a great guy and has quite a lot of good ideas regarding teaching IMHO.

cheers, and happy hunting.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

makemischief wrote:
just a quick note/devil's advocate:

1.8 is for the actual English department position (4 months vacation- 12 hours a week).

2.0 is what the "language institute" starts at (for MA's) and thats with 2 months vacation and 18 hours a week.

still seems quite low- but dr. finch (in the English department- not the institute) would be fun to work with. he's a great guy and has quite a lot of good ideas regarding teaching IMHO.

cheers, and happy hunting.


Crap, I do better than the latter figure at a private school for slightly more hours. Pretty much same vacation too.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

makemischief wrote:
1.8 is for the actual English department position (4 months vacation- 12 hours a week).

2.0 is what the "language institute" starts at (for MA's) and thats with 2 months vacation and 18 hours a week.

those conditions pretty much bite. Who can live on 2.0 a month? And the actual English department only gives 4 months of vacation - that's just wrong. It should be 5, plus the salary stinks.
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yakey



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: I'll take the cash, thank you Reply with quote

If it's between working with a great teacher

or getting paid what I'm worth

I choose to get paid every time (no offense intended to the great teacher)
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antoniothegreat



Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont really understand why uni jobs are so popular now, i heard they use to pay well above other jobs and give great vacation, but i have heard they have substantially cut back on salary, started giving unpaid vacations or making the profs work during vacation, and put you in a dorm.

my buddy took a 600,000 won a month pay cut to get into a uni. that was his choice, and he has saved some money, but god, what is the point then? do they figure you will just make the difference in money in privates?

i would never take a cut like that to teach at a uni. if they gave more vacation i would take a little cut, but never down to 1.7/month, you just cant make a living off of that.
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