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ddeubel
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 Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:13 am Post subject: Libya Sentences 6 to Die in H.I.V. Case |
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Happened last week. I've followed this for a long time now. Despicable and I can only feel sorry for their families. The international community should be just as alarmed as it was about Lockerbie. This stinks and though it plays well with the local crowd it is just plain bizarre -- catch anything and scapegoat approach. Familiar in all cultures the world over and horrible. Makes the point that it isn't easy to be a foreigner in another land OR be a local when the enemy is powerful in your own. In either case, your goose can get cooked.
PARIS, Dec. 19 � A Libyan court on Tuesday again sentenced five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian doctor to be shot by a firing squad for deliberately infecting more than 400 children with H.I.V., more than 50 of whom have died. The decision complicates Libya�s efforts to improve relations with the West.
The verdict drew expressions of anger and alarm from Bulgaria and its supporters in the nearly eight-year-old case, which now appears likely to drag on for months, if not years, more.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/20/world/middleeast/20libya.html?hp&ex=1166590800&en=1045457f6728b57f&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| Libyan court on Tuesday again sentenced five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian doctor to be shot by a firing squad for deliberately infecting more than 400 children with H.I.V., more than 50 of whom have died. |
hmm....let's see. Basically killing 400 children. If it was indeed their fault and if they actually did it deliberately, I'm not going to stop anyone from killing them. regardless of nationalist. |
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jaderedux
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:38 am Post subject: |
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Like they say in the old westerns:
Hangns to good for the likes of them.
If feel empathy for their families. However it is overshadowed by the complete and utter sorrow I feel for the victims families.
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| jaderedux wrote: |
Like they say in the old westerns:
Hangns to good for the likes of them.
If feel empathy for their families. However it is overshadowed by the complete and utter sorrow I feel for the victims families.
Jade |
Have you been following the case? Confessions extracted through torture including electric shock, evidence that the outbreak of HIV postives predated the arrival of the Bulgarian nurses, etc., etc.? |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Well I can see from the few reactionary and quick to hang and do frontier justice (seems the norm these days), few have indeed followed the case.
Not much or even a thread of evidence and multiple international agencies have voice the same after investigation. Yet, these people it seems, will be put to death.
Just seems that part of the story is that so many in the world DON"T have a voice if something goes wrong....
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Well I can see from the few reactionary and quick to hang and do frontier justice (seems the norm these days), few have indeed followed the case.
Not much or even a thread of evidence and multiple international agencies have voice the same after investigation. Yet, these people it seems, will be put to death.
Just seems that part of the story is that so many in the world DON"T have a voice if something goes wrong....
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You're a douchebag.
Few have followed the case? What... If people step up and say "Hey! Its another crazy militant society blaming all of their problems on westerners," you will say "Oh, you, like to say that, people blaming others, assume the blame. Peace is where, all of you make, it."
You're a ddeuchebag! |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| they are innocent, it was a sham trial. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| It looks like they are being scapegoated for some FU within Libyan society/government. |
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cbclark4
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Location: Masan
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Their innocence is axiomatic.
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Hollywoodaction
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| they are innocent, it was a sham trial. |
They most certainly are and it undoubtedly is.
It's a cover up. Leading experts on HIV believe the kids were contaminated through the use of dirty needles before the accused even arrived at the hospital (ipso facto, Lybian healthcare workers and the Lybian government are guilty of gross negligence). The accused were probably being singled out not only to act as scapegoats, but also to prevent them from leaking this information to the media and the international community. |
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khyber
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| If it was indeed their fault and if they actually did it deliberately |
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| Well I can see from the few reactionary and quick to hang |
I had ifs. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| If it was indeed their fault and if they actually did it deliberately |
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| Well I can see from the few reactionary and quick to hang |
I had ifs. |
That is true..but some people just like to be quick and not actually read the posts completely when attempting to portray themselves as defenders of the downtrodden... they gotta grab that halo before someone else does.  |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Libya Sentences 6 to Die in H.I.V. Case |
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| Happened last week. I've followed this for a long time now. Despicable and I can only feel sorry for their families. The international community should be just as alarmed as it was about Lockerbie. This stinks and though it plays well with the local crowd it is just plain bizarre -- catch anything and scapegoat approach. Familiar in all cultures the world over and horrible. Makes the point that it isn't easy to be a foreigner in another land OR be a local when the enemy is powerful in your own. In either case, your goose can get cooked. DD |
Trying to get a handle on you ddeubeltalk, are you now ranting against all cultures, or is it some goose fixation.
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bucheon bum
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That is true..but some people just like to be quick and not actually read the posts completely when attempting to portray themselves as defenders of the downtrodden... they gotta grab that halo before someone else does. |
I have to say that is one of wittier remarks I've seen you make this year TUM. thank you for providing me with chuckle this morning. |
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Slep
Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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I was under the impression that it's been established that this was a sham trial. As ddeubel said, these kids were most likely infected due to unsterile needles and similar working conditions to boot.
The Bulgarians and Palestinians seem to just be scapegoats. |
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