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kimchi_pizza
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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How foolish of me, OF COURSE they do business differently! They sell their jade with the phrase, "Dear Commrade, this is a one of a kind...". Somehow, I don't think the night markets or jade markets are all that different in selling their goods. But you're right, your 5 days beats my 3 years (kinda like your 5 spades beats my 3 pairs if it were possible)
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| kimchi_pizza wrote: |
How foolish of me, OF COURSE they do business differently! They sell their jade with the phrase, "Dear Commrade, this is a one of a kind...". Somehow, I don't think the night markets or jade markets are all that different in selling their goods. But you're right, your 5 days beats my 3 years (kinda like your 5 spades beats my 3 pairs if it were possible)
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Actually, they sell stuff by getting in your face and shouting at you, and then jacking up the price if you say yes.
Here are two more important differences:
-the wage of an English teacher in China is about half what they'd make in China
-the cost of living is much much much cheaper than either Taiwan or Korea
Taiwan is more separated from China than South Korea is from North Korea. Living in Seoul doesn't qualify us to discuss life in Pyongyang. At least Koreans only have one language.
By the way, I've known Taiwanese people to start throwing around threats if they're compared to China at all. |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Racetraitor:
Sorry, bruddah, you're smoking opium. As in:
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| the cost of living is much much much cheaper than either Taiwan or Korea |
Yeah, true enough, but the amount of discretionary income in China is usually less.
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| I've known Taiwanese people to start throwing around threats if they're compared to China at all |
"I've known rivers, deep, dark..." oh, almost got carried away as Langston Hughes. Anecdotal evidence standing on its own is like warm spit on an August afternoon. Some Taiwanese disassociate themselves from their mainland Chinese brethren; most others wish to be reunited if only the CCP would collapse.
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| Taiwan is more separated from China than South Korea is from North Korea. |
How long have you stayed in North Korea? That thought aside, the number of Taiwanese businesses in eastern coastal provinces is huge; ties between the two Chinese are increasing (witness the opening of more direct air routes, for instance) and the dominant ethnic group of Taiwan are transplanted from the mainland, speaking Mandarin Chinese.
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| I'd say my five days in Beijing would tell a lot more about China than your three years in Taiwan |
This might be one of the most knee-jerk posts ever to this forum. How presumptuous can you get?
kimchipizza
Taiwanese food isn't all that similar to mainland Chinese food (read what I've said elsewhere about Chinese cooking if you care to know why). And, hey, at least the Chinese can wash down their food with tea that is palatable (unlike the crappola served here and in Japan). But usually they prefer Coke or beer with dinner these days. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:24 am Post subject: |
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the cost of living is much much much cheaper than either Taiwan or Korea
the wage of an English teacher in China is about half what they'd make in China |
Yeah, true enough, but the amount of discretionary income in China is usually less.
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Looks like I made a minor mistake. I said "the wage of an English teacher in China is about half what they'd make in China" when I meant "about half what they'd make in Korea."
Funny the only error I made, and you missed it. |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:31 am Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR:
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| Looks like I made a minor mistake. I said "the wage of an English teacher in China is about half what they'd make in China" when I meant "about half what they'd make in Korea." |
McGarrett misses nothing, just ask Danny and Chin Ho.
The bigger error is the correction; the salary of the typical English teacher in mainland China is much LESS than half of what he/she earns in Korea. Eat more kimchee: maybe it'll clear your senses along with your sinuses. |
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Fresh Prince

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:03 am Post subject: |
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I was friends with a lot of Chinese immigrants in the U.S. and they were some of the best people I've ever met. I'm also considering going to China after Korea, great thread.  |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:11 am Post subject: |
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| It's a good question, and "stevemc" made some solid replies. There are other places to find info of course, but why not have it here too? A good few have spent enough time in China and Korea to make a solid comparison. Just remember to try and separate opinions, biases, and facts. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Steve McG, you obviously know where it's at--in Korea, China, and Taiwan. Kimchi Pizza, good luck outside Taiwan or Korea because you need it.
About the ESL industry in China, I know a ton of people doing that right now and it sounds like a completely different beast than the ESL industry in Korea. Less than half the wage, sure. Gangster-run, nope. |
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TECO

Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Steve McG, you obviously know where it's at--in Korea, China, and Taiwan. Kimchi Pizza, good luck outside Taiwan or Korea because you need it.
About the ESL industry in China, I know a ton of people doing that right now and it sounds like a completely different beast than the ESL industry in Korea. Less than half the wage, sure. Gangster-run, nope. |
You completely offended a guy who had spent 3 years in Taiwan when there was no need.
You're posts lack respect.
Stay in your lane. |
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